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HistWar (international zone) => Communities => Scenarios => Discussion démarrée par: orendel le 11 février 2010, 16:05:44 pm
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Hi all!
This is going to be a big project: My goal is to post OoBs for all major clashes of the Napoleonic wars between 1805 and 1815 (battles with at least 5000 men on both sides).
My main source is Smith's Greenhill Napoleonic Wars Data Book. Most of the information there is excellent but I'm sure that you can find some errors. I tried to reproduce the OoBs from Smith as accurately as possible within the limits of the OoB editor.
Some remarks about the OoBs:
Often the CiC was also commander of one Corps. In these cases the CiC and the corps commander are identical but I renamed the corps commander as AdC, meaning that an Aide de Camp of the CiC leads the corps. So we don't have 2 Murat's one the map...
I include some information about the troop strength in the name of the OoB. That way you can easily see the size of the army you choose when setting up "quick", balanced battles.
The naming format of the oob-files is as follows:
[Year of battle - only if there were more than one battle at the same location between 1792 and 1815][Name of place][French CEH]x[Allied CEH]
"1805Caldiero55x80" means: It's the OoB for the battle of Caldiero in 1805 (not the battles of 1796 or 1813) with 55 CEH for the Grande Armee and 80 CEH for the Allied force.
This naming also prevents that you overwrite any existing OoBs when installing my OoBs.
INSTALLATION: Unzip all files into the "Army" folder.
Feel free to correct any errors and HAVE FUN!!!
PROGRESS:
Finished so far for the available forces: 111 battles between 1805 and 1815.
Updated some oobs. All OoB files are available in one single zip-file, including an excel-table as reference.
Download here:
http://www.histwar.org/forum/index.php/topic,4062.msg60786.html#msg60786 (http://www.histwar.org/forum/index.php/topic,4062.msg60786.html#msg60786)
Added 6 battles of the Belgian campaign in 1815:
http://www.histwar.org/forum/index.php/topic,4062.msg75343.html#msg75343
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I'm really looking forward to this.
Now we need some maps really quick. :mrgreen:
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Please allow me a point of constructive criticism.
I noticed in the OoB of Herbrechtingen, that there's a unit of Dragoons named "6. CR Fürst Rosenberg".
I wonder, what is it? A Cuirassier Regiment or dragoons? ;) (It's not just in your OoB, I think the designation is wrong in the OoB provided by the game.) A regiment of Kürassiere would be CR and a regiment of Dragoons DR. If they are Cuirassiers then they need to be upgraded to Cuirassiers in your OoB, because now they are Dragoons. Seeing that the Austrians are badly outnumbered they can use them.
Oh and btw, its a "Grenadier Division" not Grenadieren. I know, it's in the game and not your fault but if you're gonna spend that much time on doing all those OoB, I thought I mention it early. :mrgreen:
I really aprreciate your work. Please take my complaints with a grain of salt. It's "whining on a high level" as we say in Germany.
Thanks,
Ras
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Please allow me a point of constructive criticism.
I noticed in the OoB of Herbrechtingen, that there's a unit of Dragoons named "6. CR Fürst Rosenberg".
I wonder, what is it? A Cuirassier Regiment or dragoons? ;) (It's not just in your OoB, I think the designation is wrong in the OoB provided by the game.) A regiment of Kürassiere would be CR and a regiment of Dragoons DR. If they are Cuirassiers then they need to be upgraded to Cuirassiers in your OoB, because now they are Dragoons. Seeing that the Austrians are badly outnumbered they can use them.
Oh and btw, its a "Grenadier Division" not Grenadieren. I know, it's in the game and not your fault but if you're gonna spend that much time on doing all those OoB, I thought I mention it early. :mrgreen:
I really aprreciate your work. Please take my complaints with a grain of salt. It's "whining on a high level" as we say in Germany.
Thanks,
Ras
1st of all: Hallo, bin doch auch Deutscher :) For the non-Germans let's talk in English.
The designation CR in the Austrian army means Chevaux-legers-Regiment, that is light cavalry. Cuirassier regiments are abbreviated KR. The OoB editor is correct in this case.
You're right about the "Grenadieren Division" but anyway they should not be called "Grenadierdivision" because it's not a division. "Grenadiers reunis" or "Vereinigte Grenadiere" would be better.
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Thanks for those I just realised that the OoB downloads are actually at the bottom of your posts on a link under the line.....Dohh :oops: (I thought you were just anouncing an intention to make them, silly me!)
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Just a comment (not a critisism) ;)
I just had a chance to look at your OoB for Wertingen. It is an interesting contrast to my own in its organisation into seperately controlable groups. Yours is correct, but until divisions and brigades are made seperately controlable in the game it means for the french only two controlable groups (Murat's Corps and Lanne's) and one for Austria. This puts all the French cavalry in one group and all the infantry in the second. So the different arrival times of the divisions in the historical battle cannot be simulated (unless by detaching individual squadrons). My organisation puts the divisions at the top of the organisation so we have 5 controlable groups for France and 2 for Austria. This means our OoBs will play out quite differently ( which is fine, nicely complimentary)
This emphasises that one may need to structure the OoB to the scenario one wishes to play if historical scenarios are your thing.
This is probably most true of small battles
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why not use the corps structure in smaller battles to simulate Divisions and the actual CinC remains "just" Corps Commander?
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Thats exactly what i did :D for my OoB
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I try to use the corps size (CEH limit 50 in the OoB editor) for smaller battles but this can lead to very small limits of special troop types. At Wertingen the French had about 3400 dragoons. This many dragoons are not available with CEH50. That's why I chose the "Army" size even in smaller battles if necessary.
This can be a problem for playability as you pointed out but you could still detach units and give individual orders.
I don't pay attention to arrival times at the moment, may consider this later.
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thank you anyway for your effort!!! :mrgreen:
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Orondel, thank you for your hard work. Making this stuff is beyond me, so forgive me if I just enjoy them. Looking forward to what you'll do when we've got the Brits.
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Thank you all for your kind words! This is a great community! It encourages me to go on (Remaking Austerlitz-OoB means a lot of sweat!!).
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Thanks forall these, will look out for all your future releases. :D
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I gave the Russians only 80 guns because their exact number is not known and their infantry and cavalry is strong enough ;)
The exact number is not known but 80 guns is far from reality. The distinctive feature of the Russian army is its strong allocation in artillery.
http://www.napoleon-series.org/military/battles/Austerlitz/c_austerlitzoob4.html (http://www.napoleon-series.org/military/battles/Austerlitz/c_austerlitzoob4.html)
To have followed the Austerlitz 2009 game on French forum, I can say than dividing by more than 4 the Russian artillery allocation gives the French (which troops have already an outclassing on Austrians and Russians in LG for year 1805) a considerable advantage that will give the Allied nearly any chance to win.
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To have followed the Austerlitz 2009 game on French forum, I can say than dividing by more than 4 the Russian artillery allocation gives the French (which troops have already an outclassing on Austrians and Russians in LG for year 1805) a considerable advantage that will give the Allied nearly any chance to win.
This argument is strong. Going to rework the OoB and give the Russians their guns back.
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Added the April 19th 1809 OOB of Davouts III Corps & the Austrian III & IV Corps. This was when Charles tried to trap Davouts isolated corps
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Great, keep them coming. :smile:
It's clear that we need maps for all of these battles.
Here's a link with maps for most battles: http://www.napoleon-series.org/military/c_maps.html
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Well done Grenadiers, thanks for your hard work which I’m sure will encourage others to follow you example and enhance the enjoyment of the simulation.
Great link Ras :D
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Hi orendel!
Could you tell us what reference for the creation of these OoBs you are using?
thanks
CvC
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Hi orendel!
Could you tell us what reference for the creation of these OoBs you are using?
thanks
CvC
Mainly Digby Smith: Greenhill Napoleonic Wars data book.
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Great, keep them coming. :smile:
It's clear that we need maps for all of these battles.
Here's a link with maps for most battles: http://www.napoleon-series.org/military/c_maps.html
Thanks Ras
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TRhanks a lot for that hard work and please keep going on !!
:D
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Will put this in the bug report also
I did an OOB ( Davouts IIICorps) It kept crashing well into a scenario. Checked other peoples OOBs & came to the conclusion the fault could be that the historical OOBs had larger than normal numbers in battalions. Redid the OOB with the default numbers & it now runs Totally unscientific But …Maybe that could be the answerjavascript:void(0);
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Just downloaded.
I appreciate all your work for the community.
Now we must find the time to play all these scenarios.
Cordially,
:D :D
Théodoricus
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Updated the 19th April OOBs.Think the crashes were caused by not using the default numbers for Regiments(2 battalions
historically 2300 men Default in editor 1800).Tried it on two maps & it now works.
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Next update will take a while. April 09 was pretty bloody...
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Take a little rest, Adjudant Orendel. You've already made a lot of good works to share.
Very kind of you !
:D
Théodoricus
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Thanks for all the work.
I'd like to create a scenario with a large cavalry battle. I almost finished the one at Leipzig (on paper) before it dawned on me that I don't have all the units in the game. :lol:
Which of your OoB has the most Cav?
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I almost finished the one at Leipzig (on paper) before it dawned on me that I don't have all the units in the game. :lol:
Welcome to the club ! I had the same problem with another 1813 battle (Eichberg).
We'll have to wait (for those damn Prussians) !
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Thanks for all the work.
I'd like to create a scenario with a large cavalry battle. I almost finished the one at Leipzig (on paper) before it dawned on me that I don't have all the units in the game. :lol:
Which of your OoB has the most Cav?
The battle with the highest cavalry count in this OoB-set is Friedland with about 38.000 riders.
The highest share of cavalry you find in the (very small and unbalanced) clash at Herbrechtingen (about 60%).
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The battle with the highest cavalry count in this OoB-set is Friedland with about 38.000 riders.
The highest share of cavalry you find in the (very small and unbalanced) clash at Herbrechtingen (about 60%).
Thanks for looking, orendel.
Friedland is too large for what I want and has too much infantry. Herbrechtingen is nice and small but one side has only two units.
At Alteglofsheim 1809 (I was thinking about doing that) there were 39 squads vs 60 squads but in game you would only have 5 Austrian units and a good dozen French ones. Would be unfair and boring. It seems histoy doesn't really provide what I want. I'll either do a fictional battle or something completely different. :D
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Been working on the OOB for Raab but finding some conflicting sources for Eugenes forces... anyone recommend a relaible source?
Thanks
TOm
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orendel,
I'm interested in Reichenbach 1813.
Here's what I have so far:
French Army (Napoleon)
- VII Corps (Reynier)
32nd (French) Division
Saxon Royal Corps
- I Cavalry Corps (Latour-Mauburg)
1st Light Cavalry Division
3rd Light Cavalry Division
1st Cuirassier Division
- Guard Light Cavalry (Lefebre-Desnoettes)
Total: 11,000 Infantry , 5,400 Cavalry and 11 Batteries
Russian Army (Wurttemberg)
- 2nd Infantry Corps (Wurtemberg)
3rd Division
4th Division
Corps Cavalry
- Reinforcements
5th Division
2nd Cuirassier Division
Trubezkoi Cavalry (Corps?)
Total: 12,300 Infantry ; 7,180 Cavalry and 12 Batteries
Obviously, I need more details. Can you help me out?
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Are you after the units in the Corps?
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Are you after the units in the Corps?
I'm mainly wondering atm who Trubezkoi is.
Here's what I've so far. Note that the Order is taken from the complete order.
So, there are far more units and men than I need.
French forces
VII Corps: General de Division Reynier
32nd (French) Division General de Division Durutte
1st Brigade De Vaux
1st Battalion, 35th Light 1 Battalion
3rd and 4th Battalions, 131st Line 2 Battalions
3rd and 4th Battalions, 132nd Line 2 Battalions
2nd Brigade Jarry
4th Battalion, 36th Light 1 Battalion
3rd and 4th Battalions, 133rd Line 2 Battalions
2nd and 3rd Battalions, Würzburg Regiment 2 Battalions
Divisional Artillery
2 Foot Batteries 16 guns
24th Division Generallieutenant Edler von Lecoq
1st Brigade Oberst von Brause
1st Battalion, Leib Grenadier Garde 1 Battalion
1st Light Infantry (von Lecoq) 2 Battalions
1st Battalion, Prinz Maximilian 1 Battalion
2nd Battalion, von Rechten 1 Battalion
2nd Brigade Generalmajor von Mellentin
von Spiegel Grenadier Battalion 1 Battalion
Prinz Friedrich August 2 Battalions
von Steindel 2 Battalions
Divisional Artillery Major von Roth
1st Foot Battery Hauptmann Kuhnel (8 guns)
2nd Foot Battery Hauptmann Rouvroy (8 guns)
Attached to the Division
Pioneers 1 Company
Corps Reserve Artillery
1 Foot Battery Hauptmann Rouvroy (8 guns)
Saxon Heavy Cavalry Brigade (?)
1st Cavalry Corps Generalmajor Lessing
Leib Kürassiere Garde 4 Squadrons
Zastron Kürassiere 4 Squadrons
I Cavalry Corps (French)
71 squadrons and 5 batteries
Latour-Maubourg, GdD Marie-Victor-Nicolas de Fay
1st Light Cavalry Division
Corbineau, GdD Jean-Baptiste-Juvenal
1st Light Cavalry Brigade
1) Rosnyvinen, Hippolyte-Marie-Guillaume de, Comte de Pire [GdD 15.10.1813]
2) Coetlosquet, GdB Charles-Yves-Cesar-Cyr, Chevalier du [replaced GdB Pire 15.10.1813]
6th Hussar Regiment: 2 squadrons
Savoie-Carignan, Colonel Joseph-Marie, Prince de
7th Hussar Regiment: 3 squadrons
Eulner, Colonel Guillaume-Joseph, Baron
8th Hussar Regiment: 3 squadrons
1) Coetlosquet, Colonel Charles-Yves-Cesar-Cyr, Chevalier du [GdB 15.10.1813]
2) Thurot, Colonel Nicolas [replaced Colonel Coetlosquet 15.10.1813]
2nd Light Cavalry Brigade
Pelletier, GdB Aime-Sulpice-Victor, Baron de Montmarie
1st Chevauleger-Lancer Regiment: 2 squadrons
Jacquinot, Colonel Jean-Baptiste-Nicolas, Chevalier
3rd Chevauleger-Lancer Regiment: 1 squadron
1) Hatry, Colonel Charles-Joseph-Jean-Baptiste-Georges, Chevalier [killed/missing 14.10.1813]
2) Texier d’Hautefeuille, Colonel Eugene-Gabriel-Louis
16th Chasseur Regiment: 2 squadrons
Latour-Foissac, Colonel Antoine-Henri-Armand-Jules-Elisabeth de
3rd Light Cavalry Brigade
Picquet, GdB Cyrille-Simon, Baron
5th Chevauleger-Lancer Regiment: 2 squadrons
Chabert, Colonel Francois-Felicite
[Polish] 8th Chevauleger-Lancer Regiment: 2 squadrons
Lubienski, Colonel Thomas, Comte
[Italian] 1st Chasseur Regiment: 4 squadrons
Gasparinetti, Colonel Antonio-Giovanni
3rd Light Cavalry Division
Chastel, GdD Louis-Pierre-Aime, Baron
4th Light Cavalry Brigade
Vallin, GdB Louis, Baron
8th Chasseur Regiment: 2 squadrons
Talleyrand-Perigord, Colonel Alexandre-Edmond, Duc de
9th Chasseur Regiment: 2 squadrons
Auvrange-Dukermont, Colonel Francois-Eugene, Baron d’
25th Chasseur Regiment: 2 squadrons
Faudoas, Colonel Paul-Eugene, Marquis de
5th Light Cavalry Brigade
Merlen, GdB Jean-Baptiste, Baron van
1st Chasseur Regiment: 2 squadrons
Huber, Colonel Pierre-Francois-Antoine, Baron
19th Chasseur Regiment: 3 squadrons
Vincent, Colonel Henri-Catherine-Balthazard, Baron
1st Heavy Cavalry Division
Tardif de Pommeroux, GdD Etienne, Comte de Bordesoulle
Cavalry Brigade
1) Berckheim, GdD Sigismond-Frederic, Baron de
2) Sopransi, GdB Louis-Charles-Barthelemy, Baron [13.10.1813]
2nd Cuirassier Regiment: 2 squadrons
Rolland, Colonel Pierre, Baron
3rd Cuirassier Regiment: 2 squadrons
Lacroix, Colonel Jean-Guillaume de
6th Cuirassier Regiment: 2 squadrons
Martin, Colonel Jean-Baptiste-Isidore, Baron
Cavalry Brigade
Bessieres, GdB Bertrand, Baron
9th Cuirassier Regiment: 3 squadrons
Habert, Colonel Jean-Nicolas
11th Cuirassier Regiment: 3 squadrons
Lefevre, Colonel Francois-Nicolas
12th Cuirassier Regiment: 2 squadrons
Daudies, Colonel Michel-Jean-Paul
[Saxon] Cavalry Brigade
Lessing, GM H.-A. von
Garde-Kurassier Regiment: 4 squadrons
Berge, OB Friedrich-Gotthelf von
Cuirassier Regiment von Zastrow: 4 squadrons
Ziegler und Klipphausen, Col. Adolf-Gottlob-Ehrenreich-August von
Imperial Guard Cavalry
2nd Division
Lefebvre-Desnouettes, GdD Charles, Comte
1st [Polish] Lancer Regiment: 4 squadrons
Krasinski, GdB Vincent-Corvin, Comte [GdD 28.11.1813]
1st Chasseur Regiment: 4 squadrons
Lion, GdB Jean-Dieudonne, Baron
Horse Grenadier Regiment: p squadrons
Castex, GdB Bertrand-Pierre, Baron [GdD 28.11.1813]
Artillery
1 – 6 pdr Horse Artillery Battery
Allied/Russian forces
Russian II Corps
24 battalions and 5 batteries
Wurttemburg, GL Eugene Prinz von
3rd Infantry Division
Schachkovskoi, GM Ivan
Brigade
Jaeger Regiments Nr. 20 and Nr. 21: 4 battalions
Brigade
Murmansk and Revel Infantry Regiments: 4 battalions
Brigade
Chernihov and Selenguinsk Infantry Regiments: 4 battalions
4th Infantry Division
Pyshnitzki, GM Dmitri
Brigade
Reibnitz, Colonel Karl Pavlovich
Jaeger Regiment Nr. 4: 2 battalions
Kremenchug and Minsk Infantry Regiments: 4 battalions
Brigade
Fedorov, Colonel Aleksandr
Jaeger Regiment Nr. 34: 2 battalions
Tobolsk and Volynsk Infantry Regiments: 4 battalions
Russian Cavalry Corps
22 squadrons + Cossacks
Pahlen, GL Petr Petrovich, Count von der
Brigade
Ridinger, GM Alexandr Karlovich
Grodno Hussar Regiment
Soumy Hussar Regiment
Brigade
Lisanevich, GM Grigorii Ivanovich
Loubny Hussar Regiment: 4 squadrons
Chuguiev Uhlan Regiment: 6 squadrons
Brigade
Illowaiski-XII, GM
3 Cossack Regiments
1 Tartar Regiment
Reinforcements:
5th Infantry Division
Mezentov, GM Vladimir Petrovich
Brigade
Jaeger Regiments Nr. 23 and Nr. 24: 4 battalions
Brigade
Vlastov, GM
Sewski and Kaluga Infantry Regiments: 4 battalions
Brigade
Lukov, GM
Perm and Mogilev Infantry Regiments: 4 battalions
Grand Duchess Catherine Pavlovna Infantry: 1 battalion
2nd Cuirassier Division (Austrian Cuirassier Corps)
Civalart, FML Karl, Graf
Brigade
Kuttalek von Ehrengreif, GM Ferdinand
Cuirassier Regiment Friedrich-August-Albert, Prinz von Sachsen Nr. 3: 4 squadrons
Bayerwerk, OB Heinrich, Freiherr von
Cuirassier Regiment Karl-Eugen, Prinz zu Lothringen Nr. 7: 4 squadrons
Hessen-Homberg, OB Ferdinand, Prinz zu
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All Above is what I have.From Lieven & Bowden.No mention of Trubezkoi Cavalry .Only mention I can find is from Quincy Adams who mentions him as ADC
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All Above is what I have.From Lieven & Bowden.No mention of Trubezkoi Cavalry .Only mention I can find is from Quincy Adams who mentions him as ADC
Okay, thanks for looking it up. orendel has a different source book. Maybe he'll find him and can give better numbers for the scenario. But I guess it will be a fictional based on historical scenario.
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I got the idea from the "Project Leipzig 1813" page.
Here's what he got:
French Army (Napoleon)
- VII Corps (Reynier)
32nd (French) Division
Saxon Royal Corps
- I Cavalry Corps (Latour-Mauburg)
1st Light Cavalry Division
3rd Light Cavalry Division
1st Cuirassier Division
- Guard Light Cavalry (Lefebre-Desnoettes)
Total: 11,000 Infantry , 5,400 Cavalry and 11 Batteries
Russian Army (Wurttemberg)
- 2nd Infantry Corps (Wurtemberg)
3rd Division
4th Division
Corps Cavalry
- Reinforcements
5th Division
2nd Cuirassier Division
Trubezkoi Cavalry (Corps?)
Total: 12,300 Infantry ; 7,180 Cavalry and 12 Batteries
Judging from that list, there's plenty of cavalry (what I want) and some support infantry.
Should be interesting. I'm trying to figure out if a 10km map is okay for that.
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Prince Yuri Petrovich Trubezkoi & just to narrow it down more he got an Order of Merit in 1814.Which no use for what you are looking for<G>
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Digby Smith says that General Prince Trubetzkoi led the following allied reinforcements at Reichenbach:
- GM Count Obolensky:
-- 3rd Ukrainian Cossack Pulk (4sqn)
- GM Pahlen II:
-- DragR Tver and Dorpat (2sqn each)
- Col Uvarov:
-- Lubny Hussars (2sqn)
-- 1 Horse battery
- GM Gengross:
-- DragR Mittau and Moscow (2sqn each)
- GM Millesimo:
-- DragR Kiev and Kharkov (3 sqn each)
-- 1 Horse battery
Artillery Reserve:
1/2 12 pdr battery
1 6pdr battery
Another artillery unit GM Nikitin:
1 Heavy battery
1 light battery
1 Horse battery
some unidentified infantry under General Mellentin
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Excellent, thanks very much.
Let's see if I can get us a nice battle out of this.
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+2
Thanks a lot !
:D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D
Théodoricus
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You are doing a tremendous job ! Many thanks !
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Thanks for those OOBs :mrgreen:
Just a remind for everyone making oobs, remember (as written on the manual) that AI will make better plans if "she" has from 5 to any 5+n Corps.
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Thanks for those OOBs :mrgreen:
Just a remind for everyone making oobs, remember (as written on the manual) that AI will make better plans if "she" has from 5 to any 5+n Corps.
This is an important point I neglected when I started this project. My first OoBs were very much based on the historical organizations and consisted of just a few, sometimes only one corps per side. Later on I tried to split the armies in more commands to respect both playability and the AI.
When I have finished all OoBs through 1815 I'm going to review all of them and try to make them more playable and AI-friendly.
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:D Crazy how many you've already done.
I suppose it will take a while (and maybe the corresponding maps) before people realise what they got with your depot.
Great job.
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:D Crazy how many you've already done.
I suppose it will take a while (and maybe the corresponding maps) before people realise what they got with your depot.
Great job.
Thanks!
Well, I had holidays and it was winter - good conditions for making OoBs. Both have changed by now but work goes on...
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Hi orendel
I just wanted to say that you doing a great job.
Maybe this can help you: http://www.cgsc.edu/carl/nafziger/index.asp
Keep up the good work.
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Good site but how does it function?
How to find the desired oob ?
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Wow, this site is a treasure! Thanks, Count Miloradovich!
Here is a complementary site with explanations for the Nafziger code numbers:
http://home.fuse.net/nafziger/NAP.HTM (http://home.fuse.net/nafziger/NAP.HTM)
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12th post, I think !
Thanks again, Orendels.
:D
Théodoricus
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Thanks for your big work and time you spend on searching good historical sources so as we can make use of them on HWLG.
Merci pour ce gros travail et le temps passé à chercher de bonnes sources historiques de manière à ce qu'on puisse les utiliser dans HWLG.
:D
Théodoricus
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Orendel
Some great work here and thank you.
One point, and it might only be me and certainly not a criticism, on the Raszyn OOB, the command groups for French forces are all showing as austrians?. I changed Poniatowski in the OOB and that changed the figures within the game but then, even when changing the divisonal commanders in the OOB, they are still showing up in game as austrians. Not the end of the world but not sure how this is happening :D
Thanks
Tom
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Orendel
Some great work here and thank you.
One point, and it might only be me and certainly not a criticism, on the Raszyn OOB, the command groups for French forces are all showing as austrians?. I changed Poniatowski in the OOB and that changed the figures within the game but then, even when changing the divisonal commanders in the OOB, they are still showing up in game as austrians. Not the end of the world but not sure how this is happening :D
Thanks
Tom
I looked it up but I'm not sure what you mean. The pro-french force at Raszyn consists of Poles and Saxons exclusively (no french troops here), the anti-french side is Austrian. All appear correctly. The pro-french commanders are all Poles, because the editor doesn't allow Saxon commanders.
Maybe you mistook the Saxons with their white uniforms as Austrians?
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Orendel
The figures shown for the various army and division commanders on the French (Polish/Saxon) side are using the same figures as the Austrian side. I changed the nationality of Poniatowski to French from Duchy of Warsaw and this resolved the figures for the army commander but didnt work for the Divisional commanders. So the Divisional commanders are in Austrian uniforms.
It doesnt affect the gameplay and I can live with it. :smile: Just wondered if anyone else had a similar issue.
Thanks
Tom
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Made a slight fix. Changed the nationality of the commanders in the OOB to French from Duchy of Warsaw and then changed to the commander to a corresponding french commander. Then renamed them to the Polish commander. They now show as French command rather than Austrian. Not sure if this is a problem with all of the Duchy of Warsaw command, didnt have this as a problem previously in the demo.
Thanks
Tom
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jus checked with Duchy of Warsaw troops in other OOBs such and it doesnt happen elsewhere.
Tom
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Ohhh, I must confess, I never checked the appearance of commander uniforms. :oops:
Great that you have an eye for it. :smile:
Cheers!
orendel
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Waouh ! Three in one time !
Thanks a lot.
:smile:
Théodoricus
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This discussion is so important i have stickied it.
Thanks orendel for your efforts
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Thank your very much !
You are doing a tremendous job !
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Thanks lieutenant !!! ;)
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Orendel deserves a promotion and to become Officier d'Histwar, don't you think so ?
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Thank you all, but I just got addicted to the OoB editor. :D
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You are untiring Lieutenant. You create more quickly than we play!
Thank you
Yves
Vous êtes infatigable Lieutenant. Vous créez plus vite que nous jouons !
Merci
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Thank you for everything sacred work!
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Thanks for your hard work. I will be posting some HistWar scenarios both here and at wargamer.com. I will use your OOBs whenever possible as this allows me to concentrate on the map design. I assume this is OK with you - if not please let me know and I will stop. In every scenario that I post I will give you mention as the OOB designer (the least I can do).
Thanks again for your hard work.
Regards
Yankee1950 :D
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I will use your OOBs whenever possible as this allows me to concentrate on the map design. I assume this is OK with you - if not please let me know and I will stop. In every scenario that I post I will give you mention as the OOB designer (the least I can do).
No problem but an honour! The point of posting the OoBs is sharing with the community. Feel free to use and to change!
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Hi Orendel! :p
Please, do u have a precise OOB for the Russian and Prussians at Heilsberg? I have one precise for French; regarding the allied side, only regiments and number of bataillons but WITHOUT strenghts in men. I've in mind to make a scenario for Heilsberg... :roll:
If u can help me... Bye! ;)
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Hi Orendel! :p
Please, do u have a precise OOB for the Russian and Prussians at Heilsberg? I have one precise for French; regarding the allied side, only regiments and number of bataillons but WITHOUT strenghts in men. I've in mind to make a scenario for Heilsberg... :roll:
If u can help me... Bye! ;)
great idea EylauHurricane...how do you have in mind to figure out the deep russian defensive system? and how are you going to show this on the map?
thanks for the effort though to both of you...looking forward to it :mrgreen:
CvC
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Hi Orendel! :p
Please, do u have a precise OOB for the Russian and Prussians at Heilsberg? I have one precise for French; regarding the allied side, only regiments and number of bataillons but WITHOUT strenghts in men. I've in mind to make a scenario for Heilsberg... :roll:
If u can help me... Bye! ;)
Sorry, but I can't help you. My sources for Heilsberg are not as exact. :(
Cheers,
orendel
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Ok. Don't worry! I'll try to make it respecting the total number of forces and historical theorical strenght in men of bataillons and squadrons, and correcting it with some data found in Petre and may be Hopfner (even if they are a bit "generic").
Thank you anyway ;)
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:D I'm through!!! :D
Here we have OoBs for all battles 1805-1815 without Prussians or British.
NEXT STEP:
I grant myself 4 weeks for playtesting, recieving feedback, correcting errors and splitting smaller armies into more commands for better playability. Then I'm going to post updates together with a table that includes some information about all the battles as a quick reference.
When this is done, time of waiting starts (for the Prussians, the British or even both?)
Have fun!
orendel
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Your work is outstanding! Would it be ok with you, if I made your OOBs available on the File Depot (http://hwlg.guggs.de)?
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Your work is outstanding! Would it be ok with you, if I made your OOBs available on the File Depot (http://hwlg.guggs.de)?
No problem, but... I'm going to update some of the files in the future and I see the danger that there will be updated files here and old versions on the File Depot. Maybe you could just post links to the files located here to circumvent this problem?
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Having external links on a File Depot entry is possible, but the problem is, if you're not logged in here in the forums, you're not allowed to see / download the attachments. That would mean all the links would be deadlinks for people who aren't registered and logged in here :(
A countersuggestion from me would be, that I promise you to keep the files updated, as long as you notify me when there is an update available. Let me know what you think, I'm sure we can work something out. :)
//edit: I got another Idea. Will send you a PM in a few minutes :)
//edit2: PM sent :)
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great idea EylauHurricane...how do you have in mind to figure out the deep russian defensive system? and how are you going to show this on the map?
thanks for the effort though to both of you...looking forward to it :mrgreen:
CvC
Sorry, Count, for my late answer!!! I don't have a precise idea at the moment: it will "rise" :mrgreen: in the next week-end (from tomorrow). Only a thing, for the moment, to improve the playability: I think to "suppress" the river Alle, transforming it in a stream. It's possible, anyway, to make two differents maps: one with a true river, one with a stream, and confront the results about the playability. But it requires more time, of course. I'll let you know soon! All suggestion is well accepted, of course!!! ;)
Bye :smile:
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:D I'm through!!! :D
Here we have OoBs for all battles 1805-1815 without Prussians or British.
NEXT STEP:
I grant myself 4 weeks for playtesting, recieving feedback, correcting errors and splitting smaller armies into more commands for better playability. Then I'm going to post updates together with a table that includes some information about all the battles as a quick reference.
When this is done, time of waiting starts (for the Prussians, the British or even both?)
Have fun!
orendel
Thanks a lot for your hard work on OdBs that might help me in some scenarios as I said in my Elchigen's battle.
Now you can have some fun too with playtesting.
I'll wait for your next OoBs !
:D
Théo
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Wonderful! Thank you so much for creating this !
:D
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You deserve a promotion!!!!!!!
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Hi all!
As anounced, here is the new update. All OoBs for 111 battles between 1805 and 1815 in one zip-file, together with a reference table providing some information about the battles. Remember that you can see the CEH of both forces by the numbers in the filenames [name][FrenchCEH]x[AlliedCEH].
OOBs for the following files were altered during the last 4 weeks:
- 1805Caldiero
- Wertingen
- Haslach
- Herbrechtingen
- Duernstein
- 1805Hollabrunn
- Czarnowo
- Golymin
- Hof
- Braunsberg
- Regensburg
- Muchaviec
- Suffelweyersheim
Generally you can just update by overwriting them, but I think I changed the 1805Caldiero filename because CEH of one side has changed. You should delete the 2 obsolete 1805Caldiero files manually.
HAVE FUN!
orendel
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Many thanks for your efforts in sharing this with us.
:D
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Search help to Orendel for historical OOB
Auerstadt 14-10-1806
Castiglione 5-8-1796
Thank for eventual reply.
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Hello,
what kind of help do you need ?
For the battle of auersteadt, I can give you an accurate order of battle (the historical sources are French)... Tell me if this is what do you need.
But it seems to me that these two battles can't be made with HWLG without a mod, no ?
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Hello,
For the battle of auersteadt, I can give you an accurate order of battle (the historical sources are French)... Tell me if this is what do you need.
But it seems to me that these two battles can't be made with HWLG without a mod, no ?
Need a mod....what a fool I am, i have made a satellite map without being able to have OOB.
Sorry and thank for reply.
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Thanks to the excellent Belgian campaign mod I present my versions of the OoBs for the battles:
- Fleurus
- Ligny
- Quatre Bras
- Waterloo
- Wavre
- Namur
You have to install the mod to use them.
Have fun!
orendel
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Many thanks ;)
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I will try it. I m very happy that someone has done other odb for the belgium campaign. You ve all the regiments in the mod to create your own odb, and as there are too many troops you ve to make a choice between the troops.
So I hope that we will have a lot of different odb for these battles to find the best one.
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Just open the waterloo one. But you didn't place the reinforcement and the place of all regiment ?
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I don't think that I could make the the existing Belgian scenarios that come with the mod better. That's why I did not set any reinforcement times and historical position of units.
My purpose is to allow players to quickly set up a battle of, e.g. the French of Ligny against the Russians of Borodino or the French of Wagram against the Allies of Waterloo.
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How to install scripts in the game ???Installation path please !