Auteur Sujet: Shaken in Discipline: the correct view to interpret 'avoid the engagement'  (Lu 3011 fois)

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'The well known saying of Robespierre that "the Government of the Revolution is the despotism
of Freedom against tyranny'... expresses more than what it says...' it reveals the deepest fear that
shakes every multitude which, in the presence of grave conjunctures, feels itself "not up to form." '

'A regiment that is shaken in its discipline will readily concede to accidental leaders, powers of an
extent and a kind which the legitimate command could never acquire and which if legitimate
would be utterly intolerable.' (Spangler)

From OS's prospective if I may be so bold, it would seem that the Austrian army wasn't alone in being
"not up to form" perhaps the Austrian masses had a  chronic case of not being up to form ,whereas all
continental armies seemed to have suffered this from time to time : The French army in Spain, the early
Prussian army, the early English army in Portugal  is there a period when the Russian army was  not up
to form ? Did they just plodded on like automatons ? perhaps that would explain how indifferent they
were about masses of their dead, bayonet charge all the time no stopping to fire...
was it just acts of desperation  like setting fire to their capital city?
Can the same be said in a fight between regiments ?

When a unit is routing it is shaken in its discipline ?  lately I have seen this a lot and even
'avoid the engagement' during a cavalry charge, because if this is the case than JMM is
truly creating an AI that is thinking the problem out.  :shock: and what seem to be a glitch in the
game is actually a historical reality rather then theory.
I like this game because of these things in it surely.  ;)

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I agree.  Nothing on the battlefield should be a sure thing.  Same reg charges once, next time under same circumstances it balks and avoid.

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I agree.  Nothing on the battlefield should be a sure thing.  Same reg charges once, next time under same circumstances it balks and avoid.

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Thank You tamijen88 for comments. I 'm definitely in agreement with you and have seen
this a lot in this simulation.
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hello,

Thank you a lot for all your comments.
I don't want to spend a lot of time to comment yours messages but I real all the threads.
I'll be back on these contributions after releasing the new version with the new 3D models and the new GUI.
I can't give you a precise date but the different tasks are on the good way.

Enjoy,

JMM

PS : I received several sav files. Thank you for these reports. I save them and I'll work on them ASAP...

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Thank You for your attention and your time.
I read Spangler  Decline of the West and there is a short section about the Napoleonic
period following the French Revolution that tied up some loose ends in my research
of the period, in as far as the attitudes amongst the soldiery of the time.
Apparently the French infantry man had no fear to face 1000 cavalrymen to their front
but their morale could easily drop at the sight of a dozen on their flank. (Zaymoski -1812 Napoleon's Russian Campaign)

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