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Battle Results - Analysis/degree of victory screen
« le: 29 décembre 2011, 11:34:34 am »
is it possible to show the degree of victory(marginal,significant etc.) in the analysis screen?..so everyone who watch the sav file can see it?
we use the degree of victory  in HWGC for scoring so we should have an extra screen to show the degree of victory, if we can add this to the analysis screen only sav file ll be enough or ceh screen of the results.

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Re : Battle Results - Analysis/degree of victory screen
« Réponse #1 le: 29 décembre 2011, 12:29:11 pm »
...or is there a way us to know the degree looking at battle result ceh table?
Winner has ratios 1.32 for tactical and 1.83 for strategic so... shouldnt it be:
Marginal(tac) & Significant(str) instead of Draw(tac) & Decisive(str) ?
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Re : Battle Results - Analysis/degree of victory screen
« Réponse #2 le: 29 décembre 2011, 14:33:02 pm »
Another useful addition to the results screens would be to have the Players names displayed, perhaps in brackets after the CiC.

Maybe 'Corps' commanders names too for MP games.

It would help on our results postings on forums.

Perhaps this could be an option to use.


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Re : Battle Results - Analysis/degree of victory screen
« Réponse #3 le: 09 janvier 2012, 10:28:33 am »
sometimes host and his opponent have different result screens of victory levels?
is it possible the player who does not host to have the replay (and result red screen) as well when battle finish?

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Re : Battle Results - Analysis/degree of victory screen
« Réponse #4 le: 10 janvier 2012, 13:08:40 pm »
i wonder if this is "still" the victory chart as stated in the book or changed with the latest patches? cause sometimes we get victory levels in tcp/ip battles not parallel to the table.

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Re : Battle Results - Analysis/degree of victory screen
« Réponse #5 le: 10 janvier 2012, 14:41:55 pm »
We have had many results in the last months where it "looks" like a clear win for one side -but it displays a draw.......1.34 for example, gives a draw ?.

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Re : Battle Results - Analysis/degree of victory screen
« Réponse #6 le: 11 janvier 2012, 20:33:39 pm »
The limits in the game

Tactical limit

< 1.36)   //Draw
< 1.68)   //marginal victory
<  2.13)//signifiant victory
< 2.78)   //décisive victory
else   //overwhelming victory

Strategic limit

< 1.25)   //Draw victory
< 1.45) //marginal victory
< 1.70)   //signifiant victory
< 2.00)   //décisive victory
else   //overwhelming victory

Do you think there is a problem with these limits?

If you capture the Lines of Operations, the level of victory is increased...
For example for Tactical
Value =  1.5 -> marginal victory becomes a signifiant victory...

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Re : Battle Results - Analysis/degree of victory screen
« Réponse #7 le: 11 janvier 2012, 20:51:30 pm »
I think the TAC figures have been increased at some point in the past, they are shown lower in the manual - as AnkLrds picture below shows. 

I see now why 1.34 is a draw !.




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Re : Re : Battle Results - Analysis/degree of victory screen
« Réponse #8 le: 11 janvier 2012, 21:15:21 pm »
I think the TAC figures have been increased at some point in the past, they are shown lower in the manual - as AnkLrds picture below shows. 
I see now why 1.34 is a draw !.

You are right...
I adjusted the threshold to get a "physical law", better then the initial one.
BTW, I fixed the issue about the regiment  on the defensive line holding its place despite a huge loss...  A huge bug!

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Re : Battle Results - Analysis/degree of victory screen
« Réponse #9 le: 11 janvier 2012, 21:37:22 pm »
good to know the new limits, thank you!

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Re : Battle Results - Analysis/degree of victory screen
« Réponse #10 le: 11 janvier 2012, 23:44:35 pm »
Thanks, good news about the "bug" fix as well, the news gets better all the time - like the game.

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Re : Re : Battle Results - Analysis/degree of victory screen
« Réponse #11 le: 12 janvier 2012, 08:39:40 am »
So we have a new victory level chart thnks JMM. 8)


question1:
Shouldnt it be here significant and overwhelming as LOPs are taken ? 1.48 & 1.80



question2:
so looking at the ratios below, we need BOTH LOPs to get the increased levels, right ? getting 1 of the 2 is not enough.



question 3:
So what happen like its here, both LOPs are taken but its still a DRAW? We dont have it in the chart?





question 4:
What if ratios are on the edge like 1,36 and 1,45 ? Its marginal-marginal here, shouldnt it be marginal-significant as its a < sign not <= for 1,45?





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The limits in the game

Tactical limit

< 1.36)   //Draw
< 1.68)   //marginal victory
<  2.13)//signifiant victory
< 2.78)   //décisive victory
else   //overwhelming victory

Strategic limit

< 1.25)   //Draw victory
< 1.45) //marginal victory
< 1.70)   //signifiant victory
< 2.00)   //décisive victory
else   //overwhelming victory

Do you think there is a problem with these limits?

If you capture the Lines of Operations, the level of victory is increased...
For example for Tactical
Value =  1.5 -> marginal victory becomes a signifiant victory...

JMM

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