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Calm down
« le: 25 janvier 2010, 17:33:50 pm »
I think that yesterdays duel with Pak43, illustrates the need for everyone to step back, take a deep breath and calm down (my dear deceased Mom used to make me count to 10 in French, no offense intended, I'm a Brit).

I am a recent member of this board, I discovered it by accident a month ago, so please forgive me for offering my opinion. I believe war gamers are born that way. From my earliest childhood memories, I loved the uniforms of my small lead soldiers.  As a small  boy, my friends and I would invent our own crude rules for battles with our soldiers, I remember the thrill of seeing them placed in battle formations in the dirt of a garden, we would throw pebbles at them to simulate cannon fire. I would spend hours painting and detailing their uniforms.

In my adulthood I refound my love and began to play the old "Talonsoft" games and more recently "Field of Stratergy" (another labor of love).  Then I discovered "Les Gronards", The concept of which, I consider to be the ultimate in Napoleonic era battle simulation.

I guess the reason I am telling you guys my story, is to illustrate the difference between "Us and Them".  If you are like me, you don't really care if the project is a commercial success in the general games market, because it probably won't be (hopefully it recoups it's cost at the minimum).  We just want to play it and to hell with the naysayers.  The other side of the equation is Pak43, I understand him also.  There are many out there who will always compare the game with the commercial big house products and the marketing behind them, fancy graphics based on fantasy quests.  They will never understand us (our wifes rarely do).

For me, I do need to see a more stable demo2 (more stable, not perfect).  Demo1 had terrible bugs, but who here has not had many hours of enjoyment and immersion, even though my units disappear just before I think I'll win. I know that I will buy, but times are tough.  I am a displaced British Bricklayer, came to USA in 1987 on vacation, married an American (the love of my life), and never left.  I have been layed off from work since November (construction industry dead in USA) so moneys tight, it's just going to be the demo until I get back to work (our country is in a terrible state), so I will never be a pre-order "Grenadier", as I would have wanted in better times.

Maybe we should share stories of our love of war gaming rather than bicker, while we wait with patience for our C in C (JMM) and his devoted Marshals to complete an imperfect "Labor of Love",  that can be built upon and improved.

Proud to be a "Conscript"

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Re : Calm down
« Réponse #1 le: 25 janvier 2010, 19:07:00 pm »
Forgot to say, I have a lot of time on my hands right now, so if anyone on the development team needs someone to do some testing etc.. Please let me know.

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Re : Calm down
« Réponse #2 le: 25 janvier 2010, 19:43:01 pm »
Sure,

I'll kick off...

Started wargaming in 1976 with Airfix figures. WWII and Napoleonic, using "Bruce Quarries Napoleonic Battles in Miniature". Moved on up to 1/300th (5mm) using "WRG 1925-1950 WWII rules" and then onto "Shako" rules for Napoleonics. Also played a lot of Napoleonic Naval wargames using the "Action Under Sail" rules. Played a bunch of skirmish wargames also such as "Once Upon a TIme in the West" and "Flintlock and Ramrod"

Computer Wargaming started on my ZX Spectrum with "Arnhem", "Lords of Midnight" and "Rebelstar raiders". Moved from that to my Atari ST and then onto a 386 PC so I could play "Harpoon"

I also play a bunch of boardgames such as "Dune", "Terrible Swift Sword", "The Napoleonic Wars", "Commands and Colors:Ancients" and "Manouevre" and more "Star Fleet Battles" than I careto imagine...

Currently playing on my PC: "Hearts of Iron 3", "Football Manager 2010", "Lord of the Rings Online" and "Fallout 3" and in a couple of online "Command and Colors:Ancients" tournaments.

I'll reiterate, I am absolutely in the target market of this game...I'm not looking for a "fancy graphics based on fantasy quests" game...my love of wargaming has carried me through 34 years and many many different armies and rules systems. My love and passion for wargaming got me the job I currently have inside the computer games industry, the best job I've ever had . My love of wargaming has caused me to write, (and modify and re-design) many, many rule sets to reflect my lack of satisfaction with most rulesets view on Command and Control and the lack of delays imposed on the average wargame. I am a hardcore wargamer willing to put the effort into learning difficult and complicated  concepts to get the reward of as an accurate simulation as possible...


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Re : Calm down
« Réponse #3 le: 25 janvier 2010, 20:09:31 pm »
Good on you Pak.  There are always 2 sides to every story.  My intention is to have every one concentrate on the common ground we share, while respecting each other as human beings.

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Re : Re : Calm down
« Réponse #4 le: 25 janvier 2010, 20:50:04 pm »
There are always 2 sides to every story.  My intention is to have every one concentrate on the common ground we share, while respecting each other as human beings.
what a nice way of calming down things!  :mrgreen: :mrgreen:
i wish it was always that way...
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Re : Calm down
« Réponse #5 le: 28 janvier 2010, 01:38:27 am »
Way to go ajlewisbrookes.  Calm is very nice indeed.

Patience is a nice addition to it. 
Vive l'Empereur!