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Re : Wish List
« Réponse #135 le: 10 décembre 2009, 23:55:08 pm »
Agreed - there is a fundamental difference between a unit marching off to attack the enemy, not itself being under attack, and a unit that is under fire. Presumably LG applies a morale test in both cases but I assume that in the first case, it would be unusual for a unit to fail unless it had already taken casualties or was facing bad odds. Whereas once a unit is actually being attacked, then its morale might change more quickly and you might wish to keep a careful eye on it (assuming there is time for that sort of micro-management).

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« Réponse #136 le: 11 décembre 2009, 09:34:49 am »
Whereas once a unit is actually being attacked, then its morale might change more quickly

Moral calculation is not based on "attacking" or "being attacked unit" but on several events in which a unit is involved or not so a unit that attacked can broke faster than a defending one and the contrary is right, all depends on what happen to this unit and around it. That's why the term "engaged" is more appropriate.
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Re : Wish List
« Réponse #137 le: 11 décembre 2009, 09:52:31 am »
That's why the term "engaged" is more appropriate.

The French version is "Unité engagée".  Even though I don't speak French, I'd think that word was "engaged".

The morale engine appears to be quite sophisticated.  I haven't seen any behavior that I'd consider wrong.  The only question I had was the first time I saw  a unit rout for no apparent reason, and in that case it was isolated, far from friendly forces.  I believe this is correct behavior.

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« Réponse #138 le: 11 décembre 2009, 10:02:46 am »
I'd think that word was "engaged".

Right  ;).

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Re : Re : Wish List
« Réponse #139 le: 11 décembre 2009, 19:12:06 pm »
English is not my mother tongue but IMO "wavering" reads better than "disinclination".

LvD

"Disinclination" suggests that the unit just can't be bothered.

"Shall we attack?"
"Nah...it's nice here...let's stay put."
"Fair enough, so anyway, I says to him..."


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Re : Wish List
« Réponse #140 le: 11 décembre 2009, 19:19:28 pm »
Time for a slightly more off-the-wall suggestion:

Instead of French and Allies vs whoever + allies, simply have Side 1 and Side 2. That way, players would have the option to explore some of the hypothetical possibilities that could have arisen had the Allies been unable to sort out their differences at the congress of Vienna e.g. Britain vs. Prussia over Saxony.

Certainly not a high priority for me, but it would be nice to have the option, although I'd say it would be a pretty big change.

I'd also like to echo the calls for divisions (and brigades!).

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Re : Wish List
« Réponse #141 le: 11 décembre 2009, 20:15:38 pm »
It seems that you can play a coalition member vs another coalition member like Russia vs Austria etc.

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« Réponse #142 le: 11 décembre 2009, 21:16:23 pm »
It seems that you can play a coalition member vs another coalition member like Russia vs Austria etc.

Excellent!

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« Réponse #143 le: 11 décembre 2009, 23:53:06 pm »
But you cannot fight against Austria playing Prussia, for instance.

It's because Russia used to be « allied » with France after the Treaties of Tilsit when Prussia has nerver been an ally of France. ;)

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Re : Wish List
« Réponse #144 le: 12 décembre 2009, 06:32:59 am »
Well perhaps JMM should remove this limitation to have a total "what if" battle.

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« Réponse #145 le: 12 décembre 2009, 10:06:52 am »
There isn't any limitation...
France is within camp A, never camp B...
All other choices are possible.

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« Réponse #146 le: 12 décembre 2009, 10:55:38 am »
According to the Duke of Montebello, the Grande Armée is in camp A and the others in camp B. But he said by default each nation is assigned by HW:LG to its historical camp (depending on the year), but « all's open ».

So, can Prussia fight against Austria, as none of them were on French side ?

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« Réponse #147 le: 12 décembre 2009, 11:53:06 am »
So, can Prussia fight against Austria, as none of them were on French side ?

If JMM says all other choices are possible, I'll believe him.

From the manual, book 2:

Citer
Please note that it is also possible to play with armies containing neither French nor
Coalition units. However these 2 terms are always used in order to distinguish both
sides.
- page 22

Citer
1 BLACK indicates a Neutral country,
2 DARK BLUE is associated with the French side,
3 GREEN shows a country belonging to the Coalition.
Colours are assigned to countries depending on the year of battle previously selected
in the OB.
NOTE
Please note that the colour code is simply there to guide
players and is not a constraint. It is therefore possible to
compose non-historical OB’s.
- page 24

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« Réponse #148 le: 12 décembre 2009, 12:10:53 pm »
Thank you, Hook. ;)

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Re : Wish List
« Réponse #149 le: 13 décembre 2009, 16:43:55 pm »
I wish that infantry were not so easily broken! Did every regiment that was involved in a battle run away at least ONCE? That is what hapens in Les Grognards!
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