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HistWar (English zone) => History & Tactics => Discussion démarrée par: AJ le 10 mai 2010, 19:42:37 pm
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Question (I know the answer)
Who knows when, where and which regiment conducted the last recorded bayonet charge?
DO NOT GOOGLE the answer, that's cheating
The first person with the correct answer gets a vacation for 2 in Jamaica all expenses paid by Hook and CvC :lol: :mrgreen: :lol: :mrgreen:
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I would say the Falklands war, in a lot of assaults
for the French was to korea
but I think that I saw soldiers afghanistan English mettrent their bayonets in some fights
So my answer will be "the Falklands" 8)
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Not a bad guess Jack, but no Vacation for you I'm afraid. There was a noted bayonet charge in the Falklands though.
Jack, you may now Google it but please don't post the answer.
Let's see who else is honest, no Googling now!!!!
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google translation is only because I do not speak English
but to answer the french TV channel "all history" an exellent story on the making port stanley
Unfortunately I do not know the name of the regiment
but as I said, the bayonet appears to be still used to my great surprise, but despite reports, I do not know of charges in the Iraqi or Afghan conflict
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Jack, I meant, do not Google for the answer mate. Well done for being the first to offer an answer. I was going to award you a trip to New York but I thought you'd prefer a picture of my Sheep
Incidentaly, Papa is White, Mama is Black and cute Baby (who will be on my plate next Easter) is White, which just goes to show how bigotry has no place in any way in this world!!!!!!
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I prefer sheep :smile:
I do not travel in eastern europe :mrgreen:
but bravo to the issue because it is hard, and despite a lot of knowledge, without possibilitée research, well I expect even the exact answer to my personal culture
sorry for my english
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:lol: :lol: :lol: Your English is far better than my French mate and I prefer the Sheep too. I will post the answer with sources tomorrow
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I have no idea, so I'm just going to go google it and not enter... ;)
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I'll tell you tomorrow Ges my man
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Well, I googled it and that didn't really offer any definitive answer. Sounds like there is a fair amount of controversy about what actually was the last bayonet charge.
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Ges I will provide the answer for the last bayonet charge by a unit and the last known charge by an individual, complete with official government sources.
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The last RECORDED Bayonet Charge by a SIGNIFICANT sized force occured in May 2004 outside the city of Amara in Iraq.
20 men of the Argyle and Sutherland Highlanders, under heavy fire from 100 Shite Militia and running short on ammo, fixed Bayonets and charged. They left 35 enemy dead sustaining only 3 minor wounded.
http://www.leatherneck.com/forums/showthread.php?t=14911
http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/article88661.ece
The last RECORDED Bayonet charge by an INDIVIDUAL, occurred in the Helmand province of Afghanistan. In October 2008, Lt. Adamson of the Royal Regiment of Scotland, Charged 2 enemy fighters leaving them "Neutralised"
http://www.mod.uk/DefenceInternet/DefenceNews/HistoryAndHonour/BayonetchargeOfficerTellsOfFrontLineHeroics.htm
http://www.army.mod.uk/news/17035.aspx
Also an interesting small article on the value of the Bayonet in modern warfare
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/us_and_americas/article7066237.ece
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I had the Nationality, I had the place, BUT I did not date, nor the regiment, or the Background
and I'd make coat Research on Google :| :lol:
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You did well Jack. it was a pretty obscure question but an interesting one none the less
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I would have said the Falklands, without checking up.
20 men of the Argyle and Sutherland Highlanders, under heavy fire from 100 Shite Militia and running short on ammo, fixed Bayonets and charged.
I was thinking of a larger formation of men than 20, was it a Company of Para's in the Falklands, attacking Goose Green ?, I should know, I have the book somewhere here.
Maybe another question would be....when will the next one be ?.
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yes to the Falklands was a company
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I know the Paras were involved. There was also a crazy engagement involving the Ghurkas. I will check up on both and post
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Goose Green, A battle is fought to be won - by Mark Adkin, a highly detailed book with many maps and photos.
A bit off topic, but it's a very sad fact that more British soliders have commited suicide since then, than were killed in the Falklands in 1982 (258 ??) - when will Goverments learn how to treat their troops AFTER the fighting has finished ?.
The Falklands War 1982, almost 30 years ago, hard to believe it was so long ago.......
Now we have British Oil Companies drilling for oil down there.
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Your right G24, same here in USA, many guys with "PTSS" and the Vet admin doesn't have the funding to help them properly.
30 years, I remember the news "I counted them out and counted them back in", I remember the burnt Welshman from the Sir Gallahad. The Marines "Yomping" across the island because their choppers had been sunk on the Atlantic Conveyer.
War is always tragic but those poor Argentinians had no idea.
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I remember it....I was in my only period of unemployment at the time, getting a new job shortly after it ended
Am I right it remembering that it was at the start of the 9pm evening news that HMS Sheffield was announced to have been hit ?. That was a massive shock in the uk......
War is always tragic but those poor Argentinians had no idea.
There Army was no match for the British ground troops, but their Air Force sure was. Those pilots had outstanding skill in the low level attacks, but the bombs were not fused correctly ??????.......Best not say too much about the Navy.
We should all hope that history does not have to repeat it's self in the South Atlantic in the years to come.
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I think it was, I remember the shock and silence in the living room but worst for me was watching Sir Ivor and Sir Gallahad burn
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I know some of my friends in 1 Para fixed bayonets and charged a crowd of Iraqi locals and militia men after running short of ammunition.
This incident occurred after their chinook was shot down when trying to rescue several military policemen who sadly were caught and murdered by the crowd I think in 2003 - it was just after the invasion.
I heard that the American army has just made bayonets obsolete teaching their personnel to grab whatever they can and issuing pump action shot guns - I think this is ok, but nothing focuses the mind like hearing the order to fix bayonets.
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I think the Bayonet has a psychological effect like no other weapon. The Brits still teach them to scream as they are charging. Can you imagine some hairy assed screaming Brit charging at you, screaming his head off and firing simutaneously.
Are you going to stand your ground? I think the USA is making a mistake here.
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I totally agree, Even sharpening one Is a serious business - it places a soldier in the right frame of mind.
I belive the US Marines have chosen to keep them, precisely for that reason