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HistWar (international zone) => Communities => MODs => Discussion démarrée par: Ras le 14 février 2010, 21:49:23 pm
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Hi all, Dear JMM,
I've started to mod the files in the \HistWar\Graphics\T_Flags folder, containing all the flag graphics.
I noticed that they could be more detailed and started on a nice flag for Kleve-Berg.
I had already completed quite a few states when I noticed that of the 4 files available only 1 is used.
It seems that the plan is to have different flags or different regiments.
At least a distinction between guard, line and cav seems to be wanted.
Is it planned for the future to use more of these files?
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Here are some screenshots to illustrate the new flags.
I believe I can create 4 for every nation, if they had that many.
Baden:
(http://img251.imageshack.us/img251/9725/baden3.jpg)
(http://img148.imageshack.us/img148/9637/baden2.jpg)
(http://img9.imageshack.us/img9/4383/baden1.jpg)
(http://img52.imageshack.us/img52/1542/baden4.jpg)
Hessen:
(http://img230.imageshack.us/img230/5169/hessen3.jpg)
(http://img64.imageshack.us/img64/1329/hessen2.jpg)
(http://img28.imageshack.us/img28/7734/hessen1.jpg)
(http://img294.imageshack.us/img294/1435/hessen4.jpg)
Nassau:
(http://img525.imageshack.us/img525/8771/nassau1.jpg)
Cleve Berg:
(http://img31.imageshack.us/img31/693/cleve1.jpg)
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Great work. :D
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Thanks, Darsh.
Here are 2 examples for Russia:
(http://img8.imageshack.us/img8/1589/russia01.jpg)
(http://img651.imageshack.us/img651/7338/russia02.jpg)
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Very good work !
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These flags look briliant. I know it's only eye-candy but it all helps to make you believe you are really there on the battlefield.
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Briliant. Cant wait to download them.
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Ras
Just one word to describe your Flag Mods: Fantastic :D
Thanks for your hard work and expertise.
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These look excellent, look forward to adding them to my battles.
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Hello Ras,
Do you think to make benefit us soon of your pretty flags?
you put us water to the mouth!
superb work
A+
Yves
Bonjour Ras,
Penses tu nous faire profiter de tes jolis drapeaux bientôt ?
tu nous a mis l'eau à la bouche !
superbe travail
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Hello glaude1955,
I'm still waiting for the answer in my first post in this thread.
Will only one flag be used, or do we have 4 flags per nation?
If each nation gets only one flag, it has to be carefully chosen.
It was a bit demotivating to notice that the game uses only one flag, and I've stopped modding them for the time being. :(
But, as soon as possible.
Thanks for all the nice words. Feel free to translate that to our French friends. Merci.
Ras
Hello Ras,
Do you think to make benefit us soon of your pretty flags?
you put us water to the mouth!
superb work
A+
Yves
Bonjour Ras,
Penses tu nous faire profiter de tes jolis drapeaux bientôt ?
tu nous a mis l'eau à la bouche !
superbe travail
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Comme demandé la traduction de la réponse de Ras pour ses amis français.
"J'attends encore la réponse à mon premier post dans ce fil.
Est-ce qu' un seul drapeau sera utilisé, ou aurons nous 4 drapeaux par nation?
Si chaque nation reçoit seulement un drapeau, il doit être choisi avec soin.
C'était démotivant de remarquer que le jeu utilise seulement un drapeau et j'ai arrêté de les modifier pour le moment.
Mais, aussitôt que possible. "
Thanks Ras
Yves
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I think that the different flags are used according to the time.
I test this week-end.
Yves
Je pense que les différents drapeaux sont utilisés en fonction de l'époque.
Je teste ce week-end.
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I tested and I saw.
Alas, in spite of changes of era, no flag evolves. Even our blue-white-red flag remains at the end identical of the beginning.
JMM, it is necessary to make something, Napolèon would be antagonized well that his instructions have not been respected. (in what year already the modification of the French flag?)
J'ai testé et j'ai vu.
Hélas, malgré les changements d'époque, aucun drapeau n'évolue. Même notre drapeau bleu-blanc-rouge reste identique du début à la fin.
JMM, il faut faire quelque chose, Napolèon serait bien contrarié que ses instructions n'aient pas été respectées. (en quelle année déjà la modification du drapeau français ?)
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Thanks glaude1955,
I may have something for you tonight. :mrgreen:
Ras
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Here's a first release. :mrgreen:
Ras Flag Mod beta1:
Extract into HistWar\Graphics\T_Flags
Accept all overwrites.
This release brings you
France - 1804
Austria - 1806
Bavaria - 1804
Russia - 1803 pattern*
Prussia - 1806 pattern
Italy - 1809
*This flag with green corners was actually only carried by Regiments from Lithuania.
More details tomorrow.
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they look great thanks
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Thank you Ras,
I would be able only to try them this week end. I am in a hurry because your flags are very beautiful. Very pretty work. I think that with your agreement and if the idea suits him JMM could insert them in his patch as naming you in crédits(commes acts AGEOD)
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Yves
Je ne pourrais les essayer que ce week end. J'ai hâte car tes drapeaux sont très beaux. Très joli travail. Je pense qu'avec ton accord et si l'idée lui convient JMM pourrait les incorporer dans son patch en te nommant dans les crédits(comme agit AGEOD)
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Some notes on heraldry:
Even in the short period of the Napoleonic Wars, the design of the flag patterns of the various nations changed several times. The reason could be a political one (gain or loss of land) or an aesthetic one. Furthermore, one nation carried more than one flag. Very often each regiment of Infantry carried its own regimental colours in addition to a "Leibfahne". Cavalry had different flags from the infantry and additionally, a flag normally had two distinctive sides, like a coin.
In Histwar, and in other games, Nations are represented by one unique national flag.
In the case of France this is not so much a problem, because the basic pattern is shared by all infantry. The only difference being the inscription in the center (very good solution by JMM) and the corresponding numbers in the corners.
The Italian flag is similar to the French flag in design, it only differs in the inscription. I've therefore erased the number from the inscription.
Other nations, like Prussia and Russia, are more difficult to represent. For these nations the colours of the flag changed within a pattern. Russian infantry flags for example, had coloured corners according to their region of origin. Accordingly, the famous white/green flag of Russia that can be found in most games and all over the internet, is actually the flag of a Lithuanian Regiment. Moscow had red instead and Caucasus had blue. The golden inscription on that flag (removed in my version) is an honorary inscription, not present on all flags.
My version of the Prussian flag is also only correct for one Regiment. Other Regiments had different colours.
The flags of Austria and Bavaria as shown here, were carried by all Line Regiments.
This is a work in progress.
All posted flags may be changed again when I've created new versions that I like better.
The next addition will be the German states I showed earlier until we've a complete set.
For the future it would be great if we could have 2 or even 4 flags per nation.
Once a complete set is posted I'll make an exe installer for easier install.
Thanks, and have fun
Ras
P.S.: Merci bien a glaude1955 pour traduire les autre posts. Est-que tu peut traduiser le nouveau post for les amis francais aussi, s'il te plait? Je n'ai pas beaucoup de temps et mon francais n'est pas bien. Merci.
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An illustration of Russian variants:
Moscow, St. Petersburg, Caucasus
(attached)
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Quelques notes sur l'héraldique:
Pendant la courte période des guerres napoléoniennes les motifs des drapeaux de plusieurs nations ont changé plusieurs fois. La raison pourrait être politique (gain ou perte de contrée) ou esthétique. En outre, une nation portait plus qu'un drapeau. Très souvent chaque régiment d'infanterie portait ses propres couleurs régimentaires en plus d'une bannière. La cavalerie avait des drapeaux différents de l'infanterie et de plus, un drapeau avait normalement deux côtés distinctifs, comme une pièce de monnaie.
Dans Histwar et dans d'autres jeux, les Nations sont représentées par un unique drapeau national.
Dans le cas de la France, ce n'est pas un problème important car le modèle de base est partagé par toute l'infanterie. L'unique différence réside dans l'inscription au centre (très bonne solution par JMM) et les nombres correspondants dans les coins.
Le drapeau Italien est semblable au drapeau français, il diffère seulement dans les inscriptions. Par conséquent, j'ai effacé les nombres des inscriptions.
Les autres nations, comme la Prusse et la Russie, sont plus difficiles à représenter. Pour ces nations les couleurs du drapeau ont changé à l'intérieur du modèle. Les drapeaux de l'infanterie russe par exemple, ont les coins colorés selon leur région d'origine. En conséquence, les célèbres drapeaux blanc/vert russes qui peuvent être trouvés dans la plupart des jeux et sur Internet, représentent en réalité le drapeau d'un régiment lituanien. Moscou avait du rouge au lieu du vert et le Caucase avait du bleu à la place du vert.
L'inscription or sur ce drapeau (enlevé dans ma version) est une inscription honorifique, non présente sur tous les drapeaux.
Ma version du drapeau prussien est également correcte que pour un régiment. Les autres régiments avaient des couleurs différentes.
Les drapeaux d'Autriche et de Bavière comme montrés ici, ont été portés par tous les Régiments de la Ligne.
C'est un travail en cours.
Tous les drapeaux "postés" pourront encore être changés lorsque j'aurai créé des nouvelles versions que j'aime mieux.
La prochaine addition concernera les états Allemands montrés plus tôt jusqu'à ce que nous ayons un ensemble complet.
Pour le futur ce serait important que nous pussions avoir 2 ou même 4 drapeaux par nation.
Une fois l'ensemble complet posté, je ferai un installateur exe pour des installations plus faciles.
Merci, et amusez vous
Ras
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Quelques notes sur l'héraldique:
Si vous permettez cette petite correction: l'héraldique est l'étude des armoiries et des blasons.
La science et l'étude des drapeaux, c'est la vexillologie.
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Merci pour la précision Commandant DominiqueT
Cela m'a permis de découvrir un joli site à ce sujet :
http://www.drapeaux.org/Accueil.htm
Thank you for the precision Commandant DominiqueT
It permitted me to discover a pretty site to this topic:
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Yves
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JMM, il faut faire quelque chose, Napolèon serait bien contrarié que ses instructions n'aient pas été respectées. (en quelle année déjà la modification du drapeau français ?)
Pour ceux que cela intêresse, il y a eu 2 types successifs de drapeaux tricolores dans l'armée impériale. Celui de 1804 (celui d'Histwar) porte au centre un losange blanc dont les angles sont rouge et bleu en opposition. Le modèle de 1810-1811, mis en service en 1812, est constitué de 3 bandes verticales de largeur égale, le bleu étant à la hampe. C'est l'emblème actuel de la France.
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Quelques notes sur l'héraldique:
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:shock: Wow, glaude1955, you did the whole thing. Many thanks for that.
Si vous permettez cette petite correction: l'héraldique est l'étude des armoiries et des blasons.
La science et l'étude des drapeaux, c'est la vexillologie.
Merci DominiqueT. I didn't know that. I am by no means an expert on this topic and I live to learn.
My sources are half a dozen books and the information available on the internet.
http://www.drapeaux.org/Accueil.htm
And this site is a really great source, too. Thanks for finding that.
Pour ceux que cela intêresse, il y a eu 2 types successifs de drapeaux tricolores dans l'armée impériale. Celui de 1804 (celui d'Histwar) porte au centre un losange blanc dont les angles sont rouge et bleu en opposition. Le modèle de 1810-1811, mis en service en 1812, est constitué de 3 bandes verticales de largeur égale, le bleu étant à la hampe. C'est l'emblème actuel de la France.
If I remember correctly there are three different flags for France for the period. I will look that up and let you know.
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Here are two versions for French line infantry.
The 1812 and the 1815 pattern.
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Hi Ras!
I like your flags very much...with the mod on top of this page the regimental names would still be shown (the ones added by the game for each and every unit)...is this still possible with these two french flags here?...I like them...but is there still enough space for these names?
CvC
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Attention for the French flags. JMM write over the white lozenge the name of the regiment.
On the new flags, it risks to make mess. :cry:
Attention pour les drapeaux français. JMM inscrit dessus le losange blanc le nom du régiment.
Sur les nouveaux drapeaux, cela risque de faire fouillis. :cry:
Yves
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Pas de problem, messieurs. :smile:
Do you think I would give you those files without testing them?
(see attachement)
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Okay, I got the question wrong.
Is it possible to use the 1812 and 1815 variants?
I'm not sure. I need to look into it.
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Later today I'll post some new additions.
There are some details I want to fix and I want to finish Nassau which I'm doing completely from scratch.
I have now finished a template for Baden and Hessen and have finished all versions of their infantry flags.
(I'll post an overview later)
Here's a preview (attachments):
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Pretty work as usual, bravo
Joli travail comme d'habitude, bravo
A+
Yves
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Ras Flag Mod beta_2:
Here's a new version. beta_2.
It turned out I made a mistake with the French flag. The file had the wrong name. :roll:
Why is nobody telling me? It is corrected now.
All files attached.
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Le patch m'a redonné l'envie de jouer. Tes drapeaux ont fière allure sur le champ de bataille !
The patch gave me the desire to play again. Your flags have proud pace on the battlefield !
Yves
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All Flags of the Regiments of Baden from 1805.
right to left:
first row: Leibregiment (Leibfahne + Battalionflag same design), 2nd Regiment Leibfahne, 2nd Regiment Battalionflag,
second row: 3rd Reg. Leibfahne, 3rd Reg. Batt.-flag, 4th Reg. Leibfahne, 4th Reg. Batt.flag
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Ras Flag Mod beta_2:
It turned out I made a mistake with the French flag. The file had the wrong name. :roll:
Why is nobody telling me? It is corrected now.
Because I didn't see. I looked too much at the other flags. I am ashamed!
Parce que je ne m'en suis pas aperçu. Je regardais trop les autres drapeaux. J'ai honte !
Yves
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hi ras
I Have a problem with a kleve berg flag, i don't see on the field battle, but when I see the Lancier of berg on the Hanau battle i see the french flag
can you explain me ?
and the Hessen flag it's which regiment?
thank you and very very good works
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hi ras
I Have a problem with a kleve berg flag, i don't see on the field battle, but when I see the Lancier of berg on the Hanau battle i see the french flag
can you explain me ?
and the Hessen flag it's which regiment?
thank you and very very good works
Hello,
The Berg Lancers in the Hanau scenario have French nationality. That is why they carry the French flag.
There are two versions of the Berg lancers, one with Cleve-Berg nationality and the French one.
The Hessen flag is the 1st Battalion flag of the Leibregiment.
Thanks,
Ras
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thanks you for yours answer but where may i find the flag of berg on the battlefield
thanks you
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thanks you for yours answer but where may i find the flag of berg on the battlefield
thanks you
I don't know in which OoB they appear. You have to do your own or ask in Orendels depot.
I have attached my German states test OoB. You can try that, put it into the Army folder.
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Well done, the flags are fantastic!!!
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Today I had some fun. Turning merveilleuses into mermaids. :mrgreen:
Work in progress for Naples under Joaquim Joseph Napoleon.
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Ras
Thanks for these.. a good improvement
Tom
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Ras,
My thanks also - much appreciated.
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Flags look great Ras. Work with all the OOB's I downloaded. Keep up the good work!
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hi Ras
Hox may I downloading the Baden Flag that You create and the three Russian Flag
It's possible or not
Thanks
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Hello,
the Baden flag is part of the beta_2 I posted here:
http://www.histwar.org/forum/index.php/topic,4120.msg56008.html#msg56008
I haven't posted the three Russian flags for download because they are basically the same as the green one and the game uses only one. I showed the flags to illustrate the different versions.
Ras
P.S.: Feel free to ask in French, if you like.
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merci beaucoup Ras
y a t-il une possibilite de creer le drapeau français modele 1812 ou est ce très compliqué ou bien le jeu ne le permets pas.
Eric
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See here:
http://www.histwar.org/forum/index.php/topic,4120.msg55465.html#msg55465
It's possible but I have no flag finished and the game permits only one at the moment.
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Here's a preview of all Saxon Infantry flags:
(attachment)
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very very nice
beautiful
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Hessen infantry flags preview:
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en telechargement est ce possible
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Super comme d'habitude. :smile:
wonderful as usual.
Yves
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Which flag do you want to see for Saxony?
(Check the overview above)
I am tending towards theses two:
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en telechargement est ce possible
Patience my friend. :mrgreen:
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number 3.
Yves
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Württemberg preview:
(attached)
Which one do you want?
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They are all very beautiful, difficult choice.
I will say the 8 or the 6.
Yves
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but I am not alone!
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but I am not alone!
We have to hope this is only temporary.
I'm dreaming of giving each regiment its own flag. Just as we have uniforms for each regiment.
I have several nations complete already. I will also do the Cavalry flags eventually.
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for the saxon
1. Kurfürst ordinar 1802.jpg
for the wutenberg
number 8