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HistWar (English zone) => General discussions => Discussion démarrée par: Rt. Hon. Gentleman le 29 novembre 2009, 18:04:18 pm

Titre: Graphics options
Posté par: Rt. Hon. Gentleman le 29 novembre 2009, 18:04:18 pm
Hi all,

I really am enjoying the demo, however the low draw distance of the ground grasses etc is starting to annoy me a bit, and it doesn't seem to be like that in the screenshots. Is there a "graphics options" menu somewhere which I cannot see to adjust graphics, resolution, etc?

Thanks.
Titre: Re : Graphics options
Posté par: FranzVonG le 29 novembre 2009, 23:44:40 pm
At least we can change the font, the standard one is terrible for the eyes  :D

I suspect that JMM has removed all the graphic options from the demo
Titre: Re : Graphics options
Posté par: D3m0 le 30 novembre 2009, 00:22:37 am
You can adjust some things in the initDiag.txt.
'#Largeur' and '#Hauteur' for resolution change. '#Densité arbres', '#Densité herbes' and '#LoD' should normally increase the draw distance I guess, I can't see any difference after adjusting these however. Maybe some options are disabled in the demo.

AA and AF can be enforced via driver settings.
Titre: Re : Graphics options
Posté par: Gunner24 le 30 novembre 2009, 14:41:43 pm
Will there be a graphics adjustment in the final game ?, to allow for all the many different pc spec's out there.....

Citer
however the low draw distance of the ground grasses etc is starting to annoy me a bit
Me to, lets hope it's only a "demo" problem.
Titre: Re : Graphics options
Posté par: von Döbeln le 02 décembre 2009, 11:19:05 am
If you force anti-aliasing and anisotropic filtering on the game from your graphics card panel as recommended in another thread the graphics look pretty darned nice, even zoomed in close, considering there are thousands and thousands of men on the field.

LvD
Titre: Re : Graphics options
Posté par: Gunner24 le 02 décembre 2009, 15:49:51 pm
Graphics are never my number one priorty but I did as suggested and they look very good, is this what everyone else is getting ?.

(http://img19.imageshack.us/img19/8408/histwar006.th.png) (http://img19.imageshack.us/i/histwar006.png/)

(http://img101.imageshack.us/img101/5348/histwar001.th.png) (http://img101.imageshack.us/i/histwar001.png/)
Titre: Re : Graphics options
Posté par: D3m0 le 02 décembre 2009, 15:58:40 pm
Are you playing in 640x480?
Titre: Re : Graphics options
Posté par: Gunner24 le 02 décembre 2009, 16:08:40 pm
No, I think that's something to do with image shack, or this forum.

1024x768 is my screen setting.
Titre: Re : Re : Graphics options
Posté par: Petrus58 le 02 décembre 2009, 17:00:46 pm
Graphics are never my number one priorty but I did as suggested and they look very good, is this what everyone else is getting ?.

(http://img19.imageshack.us/img19/8408/histwar006.th.png) (http://img19.imageshack.us/i/histwar006.png/)

(http://img101.imageshack.us/img101/5348/histwar001.th.png) (http://img101.imageshack.us/i/histwar001.png/)

I followed the tips here and agree that the graphics are much more than just acceptable. Given the sheer variety of uniforms for this period, although secondary to game play, it would have been a shame if this had been 'lost': luckily it hasn't been imo.
Titre: Re : Graphics options
Posté par: Memnon le 02 décembre 2009, 19:21:40 pm
The terrain graphics bother me more than the units, but overall the look isn't so bad considering the grand scale of the game.

I did end up changing the Austrian Leibfahne flag to a Ordinarfahne. For no particular reason other than I prefer the yellow flag. :)

In game image:
(http://i155.photobucket.com/albums/s291/Memnon37/ordinarfahne1.jpg)

If anyone wishes to add it to their own game feel free to download it from here : http://www.mediafire.com/?zzdzz3mtkyj (http://www.mediafire.com/?zzdzz3mtkyj)

Titre: Re : Graphics options
Posté par: bibouba le 02 décembre 2009, 19:28:47 pm
If you start to mod, it means than people like the game (as is love it I hpe). Then it's a good signal.
Titre: Re : Graphics options
Posté par: Vorontsov le 02 décembre 2009, 20:14:23 pm
Terrain textures are very dark and need to be more lighter (especially low ground textures). Can it be moded or changed in full game's video options?  
Titre: Re : Graphics options
Posté par: JCM101 le 03 décembre 2009, 20:05:56 pm
Trying not to cross-post but my comment here may help out with gfx -
http://www.histwar.com/forum/index.php/topic,3265.msg42813.html#msg42813 (http://www.histwar.com/forum/index.php/topic,3265.msg42813.html#msg42813)
Titre: Re : Graphics options
Posté par: JMM le 03 décembre 2009, 22:43:36 pm
I'll look at your different ideas about the GUI and other graphics options.
If I can, I'll try to include the modifications within the patch of the demo.

In the game, there is a software both for setting the options and launching the different software (LGdN, Tools)
In the option, you can choose the resolution and some other features.

About the light of textures; it varies during the day, max at 12:00 AM, varying with the season too.

JMM
Titre: Re : Graphics options
Posté par: HarryInk le 03 décembre 2009, 22:49:18 pm
Yes, the light does change. 

I returned to a game yesterday and discovered the light to be quite queer.  Then I realised it was 8pm game time and sunset! 

Sweet.
Titre: Re : Re : Graphics options
Posté par: Hook le 03 décembre 2009, 23:01:08 pm
About the light of textures; it varies during the day, max at 12:00 AM, varying with the season too.

JMM, I don't know about France, but in America, noon is 12:00 PM, not AM. :)  12:00 AM is midnight.

Is there any chance of getting a control to set the gamma for the game?  This would help with the darkness of some textures.

Hook
Titre: Re : Re : Re : Graphics options
Posté par: JMM le 03 décembre 2009, 23:13:12 pm
JMM, I don't know about France, but in America, noon is 12:00 PM, not AM. :)  12:00 AM is midnight.

Is there any chance of getting a control to set the gamma for the game?  This would help with the darkness of some textures.

Hook


noon is 12:00 PM, not AM. :)  12:00 AM is midnight.  :D :D :D :D :D :D
Sorry.. 10:00 AM, 11:00 AM, 12:00 PM, 01:00 PM --- Right? So, game is wrong  :oops:

About the gamma... why not, I have to look at the DirectX API about the control of gamma...
That said, I can add a light control cursor in the Option (F7)

JMM
Titre: Re : Graphics options
Posté par: Hook le 03 décembre 2009, 23:27:46 pm
Right!  Game is wrong. :)

I'm not familiar with setting gamma in a program.  Just make sure it gets set back to normal when the game is minimized (and reset to the game setting when the game is restored) and when the game exits.

Oh, and while we're at it... make sure the game is paused if it's minimized.  I think you can check for the program losing focus; I'm pretty sure there's an event for that.  Try ALT-Tabbing out of the program while it's running to see the effect on the game time. It passes very quickly.  It's easy to see this in a game video.

Hook
Titre: Re : Re : Re : Re : Graphics options
Posté par: ess1 le 04 décembre 2009, 16:49:52 pm
noon is 12:00 PM, not AM. :)  12:00 AM is midnight.  :D :D :D :D :D :D
Sorry.. 10:00 AM, 11:00 AM, 12:00 PM, 01:00 PM --- Right? So, game is wrong  :oops:

About the gamma... why not, I have to look at the DirectX API about the control of gamma...
That said, I can add a light control cursor in the Option (F7)

JMM

Why not use the 24hr clock.  0100 is 1 am, 1 pm is 1300 or 13hrs.   We all have to be indoors at 2359 :cry: ;)
Titre: Re : Graphics options
Posté par: JMM le 04 décembre 2009, 20:38:41 pm
No problem for me... I am right to use 00.00 to  23.59

Waiting for some answers to the poll :
a/ 00.00 to 23.59
b/ 00.00 to 12.00 AM/PM

JMM
Titre: Re : Re : Graphics options
Posté par: Franciscus le 04 décembre 2009, 21:38:28 pm
No problem for me... I am right to use 00.00 to  23.59

Waiting for some answers to the poll :
a/ 00.00 to 23.59
b/ 00.00 to 12.00 AM/PM

JMM

To me is mostly indifferent.
0000 - 2359 has the advantage of avoiding any possible confusion. The AM/PM system mught have more appeal to the english and american players. Having said that, I would vote option a (0000-2359).

As we are in a thread about graphic options, what are the possibilities, for instance in a future patch, of setting the game to 16:10 instead of 4:3 ?
I bet that if a poll would be conducted, more than 90% of the players nowadays have wide screen LCD monitors.

Nevertheless, I am progressively more and more amazed with this astounding game. Many, many thanks JMM for providing the opportunity to have this gem in our lifetimes !

Regards.
Titre: Re : Graphics options
Posté par: Sean E le 15 décembre 2009, 13:31:35 pm
Any ideas on how to get rid of my lovely plaid battlefields?

Tried all the obvious solutions i could think of.   :(

(http://img198.imageshack.us/img198/1764/histwar000.jpg)
Titre: Re : Graphics options
Posté par: Sean E le 15 décembre 2009, 13:39:34 pm
And another one.

BTW graphics card is:
Intel GM 3100
Internal Card
256MB memory


(http://img697.imageshack.us/img697/592/histwar001.jpg)
Titre: Re : Graphics options
Posté par: GrosPaul le 15 décembre 2009, 14:36:43 pm
Sean E, at least those views are less offensive for my eyes, even if not conventional.
Figure out playing in a crepuscular ambiance and compare your situation with mine. For example meadows are dark green and when I say dark I mean DARK!

I use a 19+20x1200 screen but I start to doubt it may be the root of the problem. nHancer.exe don't resolve. I feel quite comfident JMM will be the man for ameliorate this aspect.

I admit this is only about the 3D; 2D is normal. For the moment, I focuse mainly on the 2xF2. But then I am a bit confused with the different colors and their subtle differences.

To summarize, I consider you are a more or less favored  :smile:.

Cheers, GP.
Titre: Re : Graphics options
Posté par: Hook le 15 décembre 2009, 14:58:24 pm
You can fix the dark screen with a free utility called Gamma Panel.  I'm using it myself now.

Basically, it sits on the task bar and you click on it and select a gamma profile.  You set the profiles up when you first run the program.  I made one called "Normal" and another called "High gamma".  I've got Normal set to 1.0 and High set to 1.3.  It's very quick and easy to switch between them, and doesn't seem to interfere with anything else.

Download links:

http://www.majorgeeks.com/Gamma_Panel_d2796.html
http://download.cnet.com/Gamma-Panel/3000-2094_4-10703616.html

Enjoy.

Hook
Titre: Re : Re : Graphics options
Posté par: Hook le 15 décembre 2009, 15:31:38 pm
Any ideas on how to get rid of my lovely plaid battlefields?

This is as close as I could come to reproducing your problem.  It looks like you're missing a base texture somewhere, or the texture has been overwritten by another one.

I'm sure you've tried everything, but let me go through a few ideas and see if it sparks any ideas.

First of all, what are your weather settings for the battle?  Do you get the same problem with Summer, Hot and Dry?

Have you tried uninstalling and reinstalling the game?  Also, try a different folder than Program Files.  C:\Games\ for example, just to avoid admin account problems.  If you're actually missing a texture file, a total reinstall should fix it.

If you've edited or replaced any files in the game it may have messed up somewhere.  Does the same thing happen with a totally new install with no changes?

OK, now we're down to your graphics card.  How much video RAM do you have?  Is it integrated graphics like you would find on a laptop?  Those often give odd errors. 

I've seen strange things in other games that act like my video RAM has gotten fragmented.  This is solved with a reboot, preferably with a total shutdown of the system first.

If none of this has any effect, the last resort is to update your video drivers.  I normally don't recommend this unless you've got a known problem with a specific video driver version.  If you do update the drivers, make sure to write down the old version and the new version so that if it solves the problem we'll have documentation about at least one driver version that doesn't work.

Good luck.

Hook
Titre: Re : Graphics options
Posté par: Sean E le 15 décembre 2009, 16:26:55 pm
Hook, thanks for the suggestions but yes tried all weather and season settings. Still with the same result. (attached is snow pic)

Tried a new download and reinstall. And numerous restarts. Updated the drivers and messed around with graphics settings.

So guess it must be the card. It is integrated like a laptop but it’s a desktop.
It says 256MB for the graphics.
Guess I’m stuck there till JMM can work it out. Hopefully full game will be ok.

I did notice it is very dark in the distance in your pic. Something which I do not have happen.



(http://img42.imageshack.us/img42/4728/histwar00snow.jpg)

Titre: Re : Re : Graphics options
Posté par: Sean E le 15 décembre 2009, 16:28:34 pm
Sean E, at least those views are less offensive for my eyes, even if not conventional.
Figure out playing in a crepuscular ambiance and compare your situation with mine. For example meadows are dark green and when I say dark I mean DARK!

I use a 19+20x1200 screen but I start to doubt it may be the root of the problem. nHancer.exe don't resolve. I feel quite comfident JMM will be the man for ameliorate this aspect.

I admit this is only about the 3D; 2D is normal. For the moment, I focuse mainly on the 2xF2. But then I am a bit confused with the different colors and their subtle differences.

To summarize, I consider you are a more or less favored  :smile:.

Cheers, GP.


GrosPaul, I feel somewhat fortunate now! Lol
At least I’m not only one having problems.
Titre: Re : Graphics options
Posté par: oho le 15 décembre 2009, 16:32:44 pm
For me the graphics is too dark too, but changing the gamma makes it nice, would be great if you can change it ingame.
Titre: Re : Graphics options
Posté par: Hook le 15 décembre 2009, 18:39:22 pm
For me the graphics is too dark too, but changing the gamma makes it nice, would be great if you can change it ingame.

I requested it already and JMM said he might add it to the game.

Hook, thanks for the suggestions but yes tried all weather and season settings. Still with the same result. (attached is snow pic)

Tried a new download and reinstall. And numerous restarts. Updated the drivers and messed around with graphics settings.

So guess it must be the card. It is integrated like a laptop but it’s a desktop.
It says 256MB for the graphics.
Guess I’m stuck there till JMM can work it out. Hopefully full game will be ok.

I did notice it is very dark in the distance in your pic. Something which I do not have happen.

I've attached my snow pic.  Something is still a bit off in yours, you still see the "plaid" pattern.

No need to redownload anything... if it would install then the download was good.  If a reinstall didn't fix it, then it's not a missing texture.

I'm guessing it's the graphics card as well.  Integrated graphics cause all manner of problems, including poor graphics performance.  Low frame rates.  Some games won't even run on them, or do not recommend using them.  Some integrated graphics cards share the computer's main memory.  Anything might happen.  The amount of video RAM should be ok.  I hope.

The good news is, since it's a desktop you can always add a graphics card.  It doesn't even have to be an exceptionally good one.  Cheap.  Used, even.  Someone who has upgraded their graphics to a newer card may have one laying around to sell cheap or give away. 

My graphics card died once and I had to rely on the onboard graphics for a while. It was... different.  At least it was a backup system to allow me to research cards to see what I wanted.

Good luck.

Oh... the darkness in the background is probably because I'm looking farther away than you were.  It was even darker before I lightened it in Photoshop.  This is why some people need gamma adjustment. :)

Hook
Titre: Re : Re : Graphics options
Posté par: GrosPaul le 15 décembre 2009, 21:50:00 pm
You can fix the dark screen with a free utility called Gamma Panel.  I'm using it myself now.

Basically, it sits on the task bar and you click on it and select a gamma profile.  You set the profiles up when you first run the program.  I made one called "Normal" and another called "High gamma".  I've got Normal set to 1.0 and High set to 1.3.  It's very quick and easy to switch between them, and doesn't seem to interfere with anything else.

Download links:

http://www.majorgeeks.com/Gamma_Panel_d2796.html
http://download.cnet.com/Gamma-Panel/3000-2094_4-10703616.html

Enjoy.
Hook

Thank you very much Hook!
At last, adjusting the gamma cursor, I can easilier appreciate the 3D view, even if it is yet perfectible.

While waiting JMM adjust the program I can now finaly enjoy the 3D.

I have just to press "reset" before quitting the "Gamma-panel" and I retrieve my usual desktop.

Cheers, GP.
Titre: Re : Graphics options
Posté par: Andrea le 20 décembre 2009, 09:48:03 am
Hi all,

I have the "plaid" terrain effect too,
please if anyone has found this problem and solved it let me know

thanks