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HistWar (English zone) => General discussions => Discussion démarrée par: Jacquinot le 28 décembre 2010, 17:55:20 pm
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Anybody have OOB with historical deployment? Im creat one for Borodino, but we need some more i think :smile:.
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You will find many in the Depot, under "Scenarios" and "OOB's" :)
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You will find many in the Depot, under "Scenarios" and "OOB's" :)
Yes i know some scenarios in depot have historical deployment but not all, and orendel OOBs haven't historicals deployments.
Do you have Austerlitz historical deployment OOB mister know-all? :smile:
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http://www.histwar.org/forum/index.php/topic,5190.msg67622.html#msg67622
Austerlitz orders,maybe interesting.
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http://www.histwar.org/forum/index.php/topic,5190.msg67622.html#msg67622
Austerlitz orders,maybe interesting.
Somebody must do this job :D
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Somebody must do this job
Great, if you could do it (I'm lousy at that sought of thing) I will then fight you MP, 10 hr battle (at 15/60), Orders Delayed, Enemy View Conditional With Delay, Info Vague, Ammo Historical.
We have a Sattelite map of the field courtesy Alfiere
Me - France, you Allies. Great fun :lol: :twisted:
Contact me by email when you're ready ajlewisbrookes4@comcast.net
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If you play this battle with historical orders ,remember to upload the replay on depot.Please
Very interesting.
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Hi Jacquinot,
For the historic deployments, you will find your happiness with scenaris of the PWGM.
Pour des déploiements historiques, vous trouverez votre bonheur avec les scénari du PWGM.
Yves
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Hi Jacquinot,
If you want to play historical battles (historical OoBs, deployments and satellite elevations maps), you can play PWGM scenarios (as my friend glaude1955 said), or my personal scenarios you will find on the official download archives (Echmuhl, Elchingen and Champaubert).
http://www.histwar.org/mods/index.php
Théo
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Great, if you could do it (I'm lousy at that sought of thing) I will then fight you MP, 10 hr battle (at 15/60), Orders Delayed, Enemy View Conditional With Delay, Info Vague, Ammo Historical.
We have a Sattelite map of the field courtesy Alfiere
Me - France, you Allies. Great fun :lol: :twisted:
Contact me by email when you're ready ajlewisbrookes4@comcast.net
Ok, i think Russian army smash your revolutionary froggees before dinner. :D
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Hi Jacquinot,
If you want to play historical battles (historical OoBs, deployments and satellite elevations maps), you can play PWGM scenarios (as my friend glaude1955 said), or my personal scenarios you will find on the official download archives (Echmuhl, Elchingen and Champaubert).
http://www.histwar.org/mods/index.php
Théo
Im played Echmuhl, very nice thanks.
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Hi Jacquinot,
For the historic deployments, you will find your happiness with scenaris of the PWGM.
Pour des déploiements historiques, vous trouverez votre bonheur avec les scénari du PWGM.
Yves
Yes i download this mod, very interesting, but you need Spanish terrain base and trees for this mod i think.
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Ok, i think Russian army smash your revolutionary froggees before dinner.
Now that's battle talk, bring it on :evil:
Excellent, email me when you have made the OOB's, Austerlitz Sattelite by Alfy is in the depot :mrgreen:
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Now that's battle talk, bring it on :evil:
Excellent, email me when you have made the OOB's, Austerlitz Sattelite by Alfy is in the depot :mrgreen:
Yes, if you want we can play Borodino with my OOB and map before Austerlitz
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Yes, if you want we can play Borodino with my OOB and map before Austerlitz
Sounds good, this should be arranged by email, not here, e mail below :D
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Hi Jacquinot .
I tried to watch your sav file to Borodino battle with historical orders , but do not work , exit to menu without messages.
Then i tried my old sav file battle of Austerlitz on depot but is the same.
Only my problem ?
Now i have understood that is similar problem how PBEM the old files before patch 02f(RC3) do not work .
I know that JMM will take a look soon.
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Hi Jacquinot .
I tried to watch your sav file to Borodino battle with historical orders , but do not work , exit to menu without messages.
Then i tried my old sav file battle of Austerlitz on depot but is the same.
Only my problem ?
Now i have understood that is similar problem how PBEM the old files before patch 02f(RC3) do not work .
I know that JMM will take a look soon.
Hi.
You install this patch over patch o2fRC1?
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I have installed the patch 02fRc1. Then i reinstalled 02e.
Then i installed 02f(RC3)
This is my sequence , if i remember well.
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I have installed the patch 02fRc1. Then i reinstalled 02e.
Then i installed 02f(RC3)
This is my sequence , if i remember well.
Im not install 02fRC3, maybe it is not necessary?
Maybe you should reinstall 02d, or uninstall all game. :D
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For now i wait that JMM take a look.
After that if is necessary reinstall all.
Thank Jacquinot
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For now i wait that JMM take a look.
After that if is necessary reinstall all.
Thank Jacquinot
Im asked JMM about sequence of instalation, i think we do something wrong :(
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Hi Jacquinot .
I tried to watch your sav file to Borodino battle with historical orders , but do not work , exit to menu without messages.
Then i tried my old sav file battle of Austerlitz on depot but is the same.
Only my problem ?
Now i have understood that is similar problem how PBEM the old files before patch 02f(RC3) do not work .
I know that JMM will take a look soon.
Special for you my friend, Borodino battle with historical order during the battle, for patch 02fRC3: http://narod.ru/disk/2479735001/Borodino-101230-17H58.7z.html play with my map and enjoy :D
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Hello Jacquinot.
Many thanks for Borodino with historical orders.
You are much gentle.
Today i watch this battle with historical orders with interest without problems.
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Very good.
I watch the first 2 hours for now and i am impressed the accuracy of the map , the deployement and the easy advance of Poniatowski,Davout and Ney at center and to right.
How I'm reading from my book.
I proceed calmly because is very interesting.
Only strange thing is that if i press right mouse on a icon i see big figures or only terrain very close , not how usual from high.
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Very good.
I watch the first 2 hours for now and i am impressed the accuracy of the map , the deployement and the easy advance of Poniatowski,Davout and Ney at center and to right.
How I'm reading from my book.
I proceed calmly because is very interesting.
Only strange thing is that if i press right mouse on a icon i see big figures or only terrain very close , not how usual from high.
Switch on the full view and visibility in options.
Yes, this orders from oficial historical version of battle, not on 100% but on 90% :p
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Switch on the full view and visibility in options.
Yes, this orders from oficial historical version of battle, not on 100% but on 90% :p
Yes ,switch on full view, work.
Now I arrived at 11 hours on the morning.
Davout was probably the right idea,i think that Poniatowski with support on Murat would have eased the pressure at the center of the Russians.
Taking advantage of the mistake of Kutuzov to put strong force on his right, not useful for the battle(Bagration), which then had to move to the center.
Interesting 'what if'
At 11 hours the losses are little heavy for Russians, i think in the simulation of battle.
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Davout was probably the right idea,i think that Poniatowski with support on Murat would have eased the pressure at the center of the Russians.
Taking advantage of the mistake of Kutuzov to put strong force on his right, not useful for the battle(Bagration), which then had to move to the center.
Interesting 'what if'
Do you think Poniatowski should be attack between fleches and Raevsky battery? Or atack fleches to the south and not attack Utiza barrow?
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Now i post a screenshot how master to draw for to see better some idea to attack.
This is my situation in battle.
I do not kow exact Davout idea , but for me Poniatowski attack and then defence position and do how shield, how red arrow ,with support of Murat and then Murat converges to center, in the free place to create havoc.
While Davout and Ney attack to center with some support.
Very hard for either.
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Now i post a screenshot how master to draw for to see better some idea to attack.
This is my situation in battle.
I do not kow exact Davout idea , but for me Poniatowski attack and then defence position and do how shield, how red arrow ,with support of Murat and then Murat converges to center, in the free place to create havoc.
While Davout and Ney attack to center with some support.
Very hard for either.
You play on wrong map man, you dont have utiza forest between Poniatovski and Davout, Paniatovski can not be a sheild because no forest behind him and Russian cavalry can easy to counterattack :lol:
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Oh no.
Wrong map. :oops:
All to repeat.
Sorry.
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Oh no.
Wrong map. :oops:
All to repeat.
Sorry.
Its my version of Borodino map with historical forests deployment, forests play important role in original napoleonic battles, but in this game i dont know :D
And dont forget about New Year :D
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I think Poniatowsky can do one thing, it was Davout plan, he can dont attack the Utiza barrow place artillery cover on hill in front of Utiza barrow and support Davout in attack on Fleches.
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Hello
Reading my book,now i know that Napo estimated that the Russian left was the weakest,and
there was the possibility to circumvent the plain.
Davout insisted so much, and proposed to send 40,000 men in the night to circumvent the Russian left flank and find themselves in the rear of Kutusov.
Know this would be useful have a map of 15 km maybe satellite for to see which way possible.
But the problem is that no longer possible with map editor build a map with river in the middle of the map.
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Hello
Reading my book,now i know that Napo estimated that the Russian left was the weakest,and
there was the possibility to circumvent the plain.
Davout insisted so much, and proposed to send 40,000 men in the night to circumvent the Russian left flank and find themselves in the rear of Kutusov.
Know this would be useful have a map of 15 km maybe satellite for to see which way possible.
But the problem is that no longer possible with map editor build a map with river in the middle of the map.
I think it was not good plan because Russia not Europe and we have problems with roads up till now, the sense of position near the Borodino was in one thing, Kutusov block two only roads to Moscow and Napoleon dont have roads to flank maneuver and of course Russian woods and swamps not best place to maneuvers, i think Napoleon know that. :D
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Ok thank,case closed.
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Ok thank,case closed.
But you can send Poniatowsky to the fleches with Companas division and see what happen.
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But where there these fleches?
Google translator do not translate fleches.
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I want propose to you a PBEM for this battle with historical deployement , but i have found problems and then you have to play a MP with Aj.
I try with a opponent but then we waived for the strange initial deploy (perhaps the problem is the river) .
Many player have problems with standard Borodino.
Have you never tried a PBEM of Borodino?
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But where there these fleches?
Google translator do not translate fleches.
The Fleches:
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Thank,now i have understood.
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I want propose to you a PBEM for this battle with historical deployement , but i have found problems and then you have to play a MP with Aj.
I try with a opponent but then we waived for the strange initial deploy (perhaps the problem is the river) .
Many player have problems with standard Borodino.
Have you never tried a PBEM of Borodino?
No im not tried
If you want we can try to play
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But you can send Poniatowsky to the fleches with Companas division and see what happen.
Would immediately be attacked on the flank,is very hard.
It would be tested with the support of a corp for the protection of the flank,there is also the forest , movement very slow.
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Now i think that hisotrical orders are right.
Next days i repeat with right map for to see all battle.
Hello.
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Now i think that hisotrical orders are right.
Next days i repeat with right map for to see all battle.
Hello.
Enjoy the battle my friend :D
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Oh no.
Wrong map. :oops:
All to repeat.
Sorry.
Now i have understood the mistake .
You named map Borodino but because in the list of my maps there is also another borodino (standard) i renamed your map in different mode.This was my mistake.
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Now i have understood the mistake .
You named map Borodino but because in the list of my maps there is also another borodino (standard) i renamed your map in different mode.This was my mistake.
What about to create Borodino map with scilab and google earth?
I download strm file but not see strm data on desktop, i dont now why, can you help me?
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Yes no problem.
You have followed this ?
http://www.histwar.org/forum/index.php/topic,4874.msg74622.html#msg74622
Borodino is at 55,.... latitude and 35,.... longitude