An interesting MP experience !.

[Gunner24]

I was playing an MP game and has made a poor deployment, which the French Commander took full advantage of....somehow I had two cavalry Corps without hardly any support (not recommended) and after some heavy fighting these guys were giving up in mass....in the end about 10,000 of them surrended even though I was trying to get them back to safety.

At first I thought it looked wrong, but in fact it makes a lot of sense, once the horse's are blown and with no real support what could they do ?.  I would have prferred to see some of them rout away to safety, but they surrended instead - heavy punishisment for a bad mistake !.

Does this sound right to others ?.

[Uxbridge]

A mass cavalry surrender? Sounds unlikely. If they broke in all directions then some of them would surely get away. Are there any examples in history? I don't know enough about Napoleonics but in the English Civil War the cavalry always got away, even when the infantry were destroyed or prisoners
examples:
a) Parliamentary cavalry break out of hopeless siege at Lostwithiel, infantry surrender
b) Royalist cavalry under Rupert escape at Marston Moor while most of infantry rout and dissolve (or flee to York only to surrender a few days later)
c) similar at Naseby where royalist infantry surrender en masse.

[Ras]

I'm not sure I like what I see in regard to prisoners.
The idea that you can take 10.000 horsemen prisoner frankly sounds ridiculous.
In the second Demo I set up a custom battle using Montebello. I ordered a 14.000 men strong pure Austrian infantry corps to defend on line. I set up the battle in such a way that this corps would be attacked in the moment of reaching their defensive line.
The attacker was a pure French Cavalry corps incl. one horse Artillery battery. 7500 sabres.
The result was, with only minor intervention by me, that the whole Austrian corps was taken prisoner in under 2 hours.
Today, I saw a squadron of hussars being taken prisoner by unsupported enemy Cuirassiers, only 300m from my defensive lines.
In another battle, a squadron of chevaux-léger was "arrested" by an infantry unit, which was , iirc, in square.
Yesterday, I took 1500 dragoons prisoner with just 400 hussars. The dragoons had come under fire from 2 batteries.


So, my point is, sometimes it makes sense and sometimes it's very unrealistic. I think this feature could use some reviewing in the future.

[Gunner24]

This is the first time I've seen such a "bad" surrender, but I'm not spending time on SP so not that many battles to go from......after reading the comments, hmmm, yes, 10,0000 is a lot - they were sent streaming as prisoners into the French rear, with no "escort" that I can remember.........a rout would have helped me a lot more !.

[JMM]

I was playing an MP game and has made a poor deployment, which the French Commander took full advantage of....somehow I had two cavalry Corps without hardly any support (not recommended) and after some heavy fighting these guys were giving up in mass....in the end about 10,000 of them surrended even though I was trying to get them back to safety.

At first I thought it looked wrong, but in fact it makes a lot of sense, once the horse's are blown and with no real support what could they do ?.  I would have prferred to see some of them rout away to safety, but they surrended instead - heavy punishisment for a bad mistake !.

Does this sound right to others ?.

Send me your .sav file..
It' s not easy to say : yes, it's a bug or.. no it isn't...
If it' bug, I have to fix it!
If not, I have to explain why not!

JMM

[Gunner24]

PM sent with file uploaded link for you.

I am unable to attach these files here, am I doing something wrong ?.....it won't allow them ?.

[JMM]

PM sent with file uploaded link for you.

I am unable to attach these files here, am I doing something wrong ?.....it won't allow them ?.

Thank you..
It's not possible to attach a file with a PM. I thought at an email to technique@histwargames.com

JMM

[Vistula_Legionnaire]

This is the first time I've seen such a "bad" surrender, but I'm not spending time on SP so not that many battles to go from......after reading the comments, hmmm, yes, 10,0000 is a lot - they were sent streaming as prisoners into the French rear, with no "escort" that I can remember.........a rout would have helped me a lot more !.

I had an interesting experience regarding surrenders.  I played one game where French dragoons had penetrated the Austrian line and beaten an Austrian Hussar regiment to heck and back.  The Hussars surrendered, and started the prisoner walk back west to the French lines, status "prisoners".  But they never made it.  Instead, their status shortly changed to "leaving the field", and they started heading north....  I assume this was because they were still behind their own lines.   

[Gunner24]

I thought at an email to technique@histwargames.com

Ah, sorry, I have it now and will use this for any further files.

their status shortly changed to "leaving the field", and they started heading north....  I assume this was because they were still behind their own lines.   

Yes, they can be saved.

[JMM]

I assume this was because they were still behind their own lines.   

Each unit controls a space you can watch (F2 / F4 : Status)
If a prisoner enters within a zone controlled by a friendly unit, it can change its status before exiting the map

Attention : the green/blue zones (F2 / F4 : Status) are only watched if the option of FoW enables this kind of display.

JMM

[Vistula_Legionnaire]

Each unit controls a space you can watch (F2 / F4 : Status)
If a prisoner enters within a zone controlled by a friendly unit, it can change its status before exiting the map

Attention : the green/blue zones (F2 / F4 : Status) are only watched if the option of FoW enables this kind of display.

JMM

Nicely done.