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Re : Let's do the same battle and post results
« Réponse #135 le: 02 juin 2010, 16:17:22 pm »
I post friday the results current battle (FreeBattle1_1).
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Re : Let's do the same battle and post results
« Réponse #136 le: 02 juin 2010, 17:43:21 pm »
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start next battle   with  98 ceh against 115. For OOB we choose Orendel OOB closer to 98 for french and 115 for allied.
If not found exactly we take note of difference for final calculation.
Example we find OOB 90  105   play with this but  french have a claim of 8 and allied of 10.
and so on.

Start with the Austerlitz OOB the for the next one I think it is easier for the player to create a Random OOB of the exact strength for each side in the editor. There can be no manipulation for advantage, the player must create random OOB to exact strength needed WITHOUT manipulating any units.

This requires an element of TRUST but we are supposed to be "Officers and Gentleman" and if someone "Cheats", they are only cheating themselves :evil: :evil: :evil:
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Re : Let's do the same battle and post results
« Réponse #137 le: 02 juin 2010, 17:58:20 pm »
Ok start with Austerlitz119x144,
but to create a random OOB (example start next battle   with  98 ceh against 115) the players must create a random of 115
for french and allied then must remove from french 17 ceh.
It is quite annoying.
However for me it's ok.
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Re : Let's do the same battle and post results
« Réponse #138 le: 02 juin 2010, 18:17:33 pm »
No Alfy, you don't have to do that.
Say you need a 98 against 115. First create a random 98 ceh for both sides, name it then delete oob.b (Allies) in the Histwar/Army folder. Next create random 115 ceh for both sides, name it then delete oob.a (France). You are left with a 98 for France and 115 for Allies.

Now you have an easy method of creating 2 precise oob's :smile: :smile:

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Re : Let's do the same battle and post results
« Réponse #139 le: 02 juin 2010, 18:31:16 pm »
Good idea Ajle.
Well , so is much better.
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Re : Let's do the same battle and post results
« Réponse #140 le: 03 juin 2010, 12:16:19 pm »
I have played to first battle of mini_camp (Heilsberg) for challenge next week, is to play for both testsy.
I was surprised of the battle , very difficult.
1 freezing recovery with load save game then all ok.
Then i created OOB for next battle (Koingsberg) and i had repeat command create many times to reach exactly ceh determined.
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Re : Let's do the same battle and post results
« Réponse #141 le: 03 juin 2010, 14:51:19 pm »
It does sometimes take quite a few hits of the "Create" button. Helpfull hint, if you want a CEH of say 90, set the CEH slider to 95. Somehow this seems to get you there faster

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Re : Let's do the same battle and post results
« Réponse #142 le: 03 juin 2010, 15:03:44 pm »
The big problem on that mini_camp it is the final ceh to create OOB for next battle.
For me it is not right.
Ajle look at last result of our battles.
Compare % difference of strenght and % difference of ceh, it is too larger.
For me it is perhaps more correct the % of losses not the final ceh.
http://www.histwar.org/forum/index.php/topic,4904.75.html
post 89 look at loss of Alenxander I

Alexander
Start ceh 144422
end            106071
% loss                64%

strenght  start  87646
                end     40239
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Re : Let's do the same battle and post results
« Réponse #143 le: 03 juin 2010, 15:39:14 pm »
Just did that and the Arithmetic doesn't work, lets just use the final CEH strength for the following battle. I will post in Bug Reports

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Re : Let's do the same battle and post results
« Réponse #144 le: 03 juin 2010, 16:02:59 pm »
Ok good.
Now in doubt, to calculate the final ceh:
(Strenght final - strenght start)/strenght start *100       %loss of strenght  ( example  40%)
Start ceh * (100-%loss)/100=final ceh

example 119 * .60=71.4  (final 72 ceh )

This method it is not exact (do not know coefficient of ceh for every unit) ,but it is the single easiest thing we can do.
You agree ? or other idea ?
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Re : Let's do the same battle and post results
« Réponse #145 le: 03 juin 2010, 16:11:50 pm »
Alfy, I'd just use the Final CEH figure for the next battle. In my post below that would be 90 France 106 Allies. I think it's the % calculation that's wrong not the Final CEH. To obtain a winner % I need to think, so back soon

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Re : Let's do the same battle and post results
« Réponse #146 le: 03 juin 2010, 16:41:24 pm »
Here's my idea, what do you think?

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Re : Let's do the same battle and post results
« Réponse #147 le: 03 juin 2010, 16:56:06 pm »
But final ceh is wrong.
Your method to calculate the winner is right.
The my idea it is to use your method to calculate the winner for to calculate the ceh final to use in next battle.
Example loss french with your calc is 23% therefore forces remained is (100-23)=77%
Start ceh * 77% =end ceh to use for next battle

119791*.77=92239   = 92 ceh

allied 144422*.46= 66434  =67 ceh
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Re : Let's do the same battle and post results
« Réponse #148 le: 03 juin 2010, 17:01:34 pm »
Thinking :idea:

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Re : Let's do the same battle and post results
« Réponse #149 le: 03 juin 2010, 17:08:02 pm »

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119791*.77=92239   = 92 ceh

allied 144422*.46= 66434  =67 ceh


Alfy, the Allied CEH cannot be less than the French CEH whe they have more troops than the French at battle end